Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread George Shapovalov
On Thursday 13 December 2012 21:25:59 Markos Chandras wrote: > We also have 720 packages listed as maintainer-needed[1] meaning > nobody is actually taking care of them. > And this number is pretty scary. Scary how? With over 15000 packages total by now (in only the official tree; or even more, wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread George Shapovalov
On Thursday 13 December 2012 12:59:40 Jory A. Pratt wrote: > But to keep ebuilds for ex. gcc around for over 5 years is just insane. What? I would argue, that stuff like gcc and some other system packages should be kept forewer. One (working) version per SLOT is enough, but these should just stay

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grab

2012-12-13 Thread Kacper Kowalik
Hi Folks! There are a few packages that I'm no longer interested in maintaining: media-gfx/mandelbulber (co maintained-by media-gfx, needs bump and some opencl love) net-irc/irssi-xmpp (stablereq pending #440864) net-misc/identicurse (no bugs, no stable) I'll drop myself in a week and assign to m

[gentoo-dev] [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: sci-astronomy/sextractor & sci-astronomy/scamp

2012-12-13 Thread justin
# Sebastien Fabbro (13 Dec 2012) # Necessary removal to get rid of very unstable sci-libs/lapack-atlas # Packages are in the science overlay # until sci-libs/atlas replacement make it to the main tree sci-astronomy/sextractor sci-astronomy/scamp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signa

[gentoo-dev] Re: Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:51:33 -0600 as excerpted: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:06:34PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 13/12/12 06:49 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> > For example, glibc-2.9 and gcc-2.95. I think that i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
William Hubbs schrieb: >>> For example, glibc-2.9 and gcc-2.95. I think that if we are going >>> to keep things this old in the tree we need a good reason for >>> them. >> >> iirc, gcc-2.95 and linux-2.4 (still used for some embedded systems) >> play best together. > > I'm not sure how strong this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:57:16PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> I am sure that some people find it very handy to have old gcc ebuilds >> around. It might come in handy for testing. > > Testhing what? > Maybe to see if my code works with ol

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:57:16PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: > I am sure that some people find it very handy to have old gcc ebuilds > around. It might come in handy for testing. Testhing what? > It doesn't matter if they can't compile the latest kernel. If someone > files a bug for that, it get

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:06:34PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 13/12/12 06:49 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > For example, glibc-2.9 and gcc-2.95. I think that if we are going > > to keep things this old in the tree we need a good reason f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > +1 , the ability to install older versions of software or legacy > software is one of the reasons I switched to Gentoo in the first > place. There is of course a point when these packages can no longer > be maintained, but until that hap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/12/12 06:49 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > For example, glibc-2.9 and gcc-2.95. I think that if we are going > to keep things this old in the tree we need a good reason for > them. iirc, gcc-2.95 and linux-2.4 (still used for some embedded systems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/12/12 06:24 PM, Jeff Horelick wrote: > On 13 December 2012 17:57, Mike Gilbert > wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jory A. Pratt >> wrote: >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 12/13/2012 12:48 PM, Tomáš

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 06:24:30PM -0500, Jeff Horelick wrote: > On 13 December 2012 17:57, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote: > >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 12/13/2012 12:48 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > >>> > >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 13 December 2012 17:57, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 12/13/2012 12:48 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >>> >>> But there is one big ass but. We have some packages that were >>> stabilised las

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/13/2012 12:48 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >> >> But there is one big ass but. We have some packages that were >> stabilised last time few year back and they provide multiple testing >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > >> Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just the same. Except for the fact that it will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Markos Chandras
On 13 December 2012 19:28, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 13-12-2012 a las 13:10 -0600, William Hubbs escribió: >> I think another good reason for treecleaning a package is if upstream for >> the package stops supporting their package and recommends that you use >> a new package. In this situation,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: > > > Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just > > > the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require > > > EAPI=5 at all an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: > > Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just > > the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require > > EAPI=5 at all and probably make arch testing a bit easier for a few > > people. > > Soun

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-12-2012 a las 13:10 -0600, William Hubbs escribió: > I think another good reason for treecleaning a package is if upstream for > the package stops supporting their package and recommends that you use > a new package. In this situation, once the new package hits stable, > there is really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread William Hubbs
I think another good reason for treecleaning a package is if upstream for the package stops supporting their package and recommends that you use a new package. In this situation, once the new package hits stable, there is really not a reason to keep the old package around. Instead, any necessary tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Jory A. Pratt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/13/2012 12:48 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > But there is one big ass but. We have some packages that were > stabilised last time few year back and they provide multiple testing > versions on top of that. > Who is the one to deterimine which one s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2012/12/13 Tomáš Chvátal : > > But there is one big ass but. We have some packages that were > stabilised last time few year back and they provide multiple testing > versions on top of that. > Who is the one to deterimine which one should go stable and which to get rid > of? > We had some humble t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2012/12/13 Jory A. Pratt : > > As many of us are aware the tree is growing to a size that is really > unacceptable for many. We have many packages that have excessive amounts > of versions laying around that are not used any more. Many of these > packages with excessive revisions most likely do not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-12-2012 a las 12:31 -0600, Jory A. Pratt escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > As many of us are aware the tree is growing to a size that is really > unacceptable for many. We have many packages that have excessive amounts > of versions laying around that are n

[gentoo-dev] Cleaning tree of outdated packages

2012-12-13 Thread Jory A. Pratt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As many of us are aware the tree is growing to a size that is really unacceptable for many. We have many packages that have excessive amounts of versions laying around that are not used any more. Many of these packages with excessive revisions most li

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: sci-libs/blas-atlas & sci-libs/lapack-atlas

2012-12-13 Thread justin
# Justin Lecher (5 Dec 2012) # sci-libs/(lapack/blas)-altas will be removed due to # fragile build and runtime behaviour #372323. # Alternatives are sci-libs/lapack-reference & sci-libs/blas-reference. # Follow up package named sci-libs/atlas can be found in # sci overlay and will be moved once re