Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/09/2012 09:15 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > No, once they are downloaded, they don't change ever after the quarterly > rollover which starts a new updates file. Nor do they take up > significant storage space. They probably take up a higher percentage of > your fs's inodes than % diskspace. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:15:37 -0800 Brian Dolbec wrote: > No, once they are downloaded, they don't change ever after the quarterly > rollover which starts a new updates file. gentoo-x86/profiles/updates $ LANG=C ls -1 --sort=time 4Q-2012 3Q-2012 1Q-2008 2Q-2012 4Q-2011 1Q-2012 3Q-2011 2Q-2011 1Q

[gentoo-dev] Obsolete package atoms in package.mask files

2012-12-09 Thread Sergey Popov
Some time ago, there was one bugreport[1] about obsolete mask entries in package.mask files in diffirent profiles. Bug is assigned to QA team, but only amd64 no-multilib profile was cleaned up, as i know. Maybe we should add arch teams, whose profiles contains deprecated entries, to CC on this bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 01:52 +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: > Brian Dolbec wrote: > > > > remove entries in profiles/updates for tree-cleaned packages... > > > > > > What's the advantage of doing that? > > > > None > .. > > FYI... Currently there are updates files in profiles/updates/ > > dating back t

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21:29AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Greg KH schrieb: > >> No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and > >> integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in > >> some location where UEFI looks for it (/efi/boot/boo

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 08:08:01PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò > wrote: > > On 10/12/2012 01:52, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> The shim might work, but I'd hardly call it "secure boot" if every > >> motherboard manufacturer and OEM in the world has t

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 07:52:16PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò > wrote: > > On 09/12/2012 19:59, Greg KH wrote: > >> The UEFI spec does not allow that mode of operation in secure boot mode, > >> sorry. You will have to disable it in order to boot

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 01:24:53AM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/12/2012 19:59, Greg KH wrote: > > The UEFI spec does not allow that mode of operation in secure boot mode, > > sorry. You will have to disable it in order to boot a Gentoo image, > > which is fine, but there's no reason why

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 10/12/2012 01:52, Rich Freeman wrote: >> The shim might work, but I'd hardly call it "secure boot" if every >> motherboard manufacturer and OEM in the world has the ability to sign >> things, even if MS vouched for them all. Even if

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Peter Stuge
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > >> # isohybrid image.ISO > > > > Please send a patch to the gentoo-catalyst@ list which adds this as > > an optional step in the catalyst livecd2 target in a nice way, and > > file a bug with updated ebuilds for catalyst which add the dependency. > > Bug was

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 10/12/2012 01:52, Rich Freeman wrote: > The shim might work, but I'd hardly call it "secure boot" if every > motherboard manufacturer and OEM in the world has the ability to sign > things, even if MS vouched for them all. Even if I installed Windows > I'd want the ability to re-sign it with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 09/12/2012 19:59, Greg KH wrote: >> The UEFI spec does not allow that mode of operation in secure boot mode, >> sorry. You will have to disable it in order to boot a Gentoo image, >> which is fine, but there's no reason why Gentoo can'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Peter Stuge
Brian Dolbec wrote: > > > remove entries in profiles/updates for tree-cleaned packages... > > > > What's the advantage of doing that? > > None .. > FYI... Currently there are updates files in profiles/updates/ > dating back to 2004 Do they take up significant storage space or transfer time, comp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sun, 2012-12-09 at 15:10 -0800, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 12/9/12 1:17 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > > Starting from a question by Markos in #gentoo-portage about whether to > > remove entries in profiles/updates for tree-cleaned packages... > > What's the advantage of doing that? None, it a

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-12-09 23h59 UTC

2012-12-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-12-09 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-haskell/hdoc2012-12-06 22:57:06 slyfox kde-base/dragonplayer 2012-12-08 12:15:36 dilfridge kde-base/kbattl

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 09/12/2012 19:59, Greg KH wrote: > The UEFI spec does not allow that mode of operation in secure boot mode, > sorry. You will have to disable it in order to boot a Gentoo image, > which is fine, but there's no reason why Gentoo can't use the MS-signed > shim bootloader like all other distros are

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
likewhoa schrieb: > interesting and probably something we can get away with since not all > users actually touch the kernel line but some do so it might not be a > smart option to disable kernel parameters on UEFI only systems. The kernel parameters are not disabled, they just have to be specifie

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Greg KH schrieb: >> No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and >> integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in >> some location where UEFI looks for it (/efi/boot/bootx64.efi). >> >> This has the disadvantage of not allowing to pass additional kernel >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 12/9/12 1:17 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > Starting from a question by Markos in #gentoo-portage about whether to > remove entries in profiles/updates for tree-cleaned packages... What's the advantage of doing that? > I propose that we say, once a year, schedule a tree-cleaning of old > updates fi

[gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Brian Dolbec
Starting from a question by Markos in #gentoo-portage about whether to remove entries in profiles/updates for tree-cleaned packages... I propose that we say, once a year, schedule a tree-cleaning of old updates files. These updates files could be added to a tarball made available for download. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread likewhoa
On 12/09/2012 01:46 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Fernando Reyes schrieb: >> That's what meant since we use isolinux on the release media and until >> syslinux-6 we are forced to use another bootloader and grub seems out of the >> questions because of licensing issues. I will test new

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 01:35:57PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > > > The FSF has already said that using Grub2 and the GPLv3 is just fine > > with the UEFI method of booting, so there is no problem from that side. > > There's a statement about this

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 07:46:59PM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Fernando Reyes schrieb: > > That's what meant since we use isolinux on the release media and until > > syslinux-6 we are forced to use another bootloader and grub seems out of > > the questions because of licensing is

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Fernando Reyes
Then let's get UEFI support on our release media and out the box usb booting so users don't have to go boot other livecds. likewhoa Greg KH wrote: >On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 01:13:38PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Fernando Reyes >> wrote: >> > I don't know the

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Fernando Reyes schrieb: > That's what meant since we use isolinux on the release media and until > syslinux-6 we are forced to use another bootloader and grub seems out of the > questions because of licensing issues. I will test new syslinux soon and see > how isohybrid and isolinux plau togethe

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > The FSF has already said that using Grub2 and the GPLv3 is just fine > with the UEFI method of booting, so there is no problem from that side. > There's a statement about this somewhere on their site if you are > curious. > > The only one objectin

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 01:13:38PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Fernando Reyes > wrote: > > I don't know the details of the issue but I know that I was prevented from > > using grub on the livedvd. > > Well, if some perceived legal constraint is keeping us from do

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Fernando Reyes wrote: > I don't know the details of the issue but I know that I was prevented from > using grub on the livedvd. Well, if some perceived legal constraint is keeping us from doing whatever seems to be technically most appropriate we should investigat

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Fernando Reyes
I don't know the details of the issue but I know that I was prevented from using grub on the livedvd. Rich Freeman wrote: >On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Fernando Reyes > wrote: >> grub seems out of the questions because of licensing issues. > >What licensing issues? Just distribute the sou

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Fernando Reyes wrote: > grub seems out of the questions because of licensing issues. What licensing issues? Just distribute the source. If the Gentoo Foundation goes into the hardware business and starts distributing hardware that only boots Gentoo-signed grub b

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Fernando Reyes
That's what meant since we use isolinux on the release media and until syslinux-6 we are forced to use another bootloader and grub seems out of the questions because of licensing issues. I will test new syslinux soon and see how isohybrid and isolinux plau together on an EFI bios. Chí-Thanh Chr

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Fernando Reyes schrieb: > The problem with the isohybrid approach is that it doesn't support UEFI > booting and this is why I wouldn't recommended as a feature in catalyst. > However, this should be documented somewhere so that users know its possible > without having to follow the liveusb guide

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Peter Stuge schrieb: > Fernando Reyes wrote: >> iirc the minimal install CD ISO is capable of booting from a USB device or >> any removable media by just running the following commands. >> >> # isohybrid image.ISO > Please send a patch to the gentoo-catalyst@ list which adds this as > an optional

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 08:10:32PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > Uh, does emerge-webrsync have some kind of automagical detection of > the fact that you're building a chroot? I would think that it would > sync /usr/portage, and not /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage. Perhaps you > should move that down into

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > I think it is possible to use the unetbootin utility to make the > minimal iso image boot from a USB flash disk. Just make the real thing… https://github.com/mkdesu/liberte/blob/master/src/root/mkimage -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux: ht

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Markos Chandras
On 9 December 2012 05:04, Peter Stuge wrote: > Fernando Reyes wrote: >> iirc the minimal install CD ISO is capable of booting from a USB device or >> any removable media by just running the following commands. >> >> # isohybrid image.ISO > > Please send a patch to the gentoo-catalyst@ list which

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Support recursive DOCS in EAPI 4.

2012-12-09 Thread Michał Górny
Fixes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398147 --- gx86/eclass/autotools-utils.eclass | 6 +- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/gx86/eclass/autotools-utils.eclass b/gx86/eclass/autotools-utils.eclass index 7bdc5d6..a03abb5 100644 --- a/gx86/eclass/autotools-u