Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Fernando Reyes
The problem with the isohybrid approach is that it doesn't support UEFI booting and this is why I wouldn't recommended as a feature in catalyst. However, this should be documented somewhere so that users know its possible without having to follow the liveusb guide which is probably outdated by t

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Peter Stuge
Fernando Reyes wrote: > iirc the minimal install CD ISO is capable of booting from a USB device or > any removable media by just running the following commands. > > # isohybrid image.ISO Please send a patch to the gentoo-catalyst@ list which adds this as an optional step in the catalyst livecd2

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Fernando Reyes
iirc the minimal install CD ISO is capable of booting from a USB device or any removable media by just running the following commands. # isohybrid image.ISO # did if=image.ISO of=/dev/sdb bs=8192k sdb being your removable device. Also keep in mind that any data on sdb will be wiped after runni

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 08:55:04PM -0800, "Pawe?? Hajdan, Jr." wrote > The serious problem here is that we need *new* users. A non-working > install CD is a really bad thing here, don't you think? ;-) While we're at it, can we please also make a USB-key "install ISO"? I'm not asking merely beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Second, the Portage tree snapshots are now installed through emerge-webrsync > (which means the entire section on downloading the tarballs, checking > integrity, extracting is now a single paragraph). Uh, does emerge-webrsync have some kind

[gentoo-dev] Handbook updates Was: Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Duncan
Sven Vermeulen posted on Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:41:42 + as excerpted: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:44:31AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 11/30/2012 06:46 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: >> > On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, "Markos Chandras" >> > wrote: >> > > > We could slightly simplify the handbook inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-08 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:44:31AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/30/2012 06:46 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2012 10:24 AM, "Markos Chandras" wrote: > > > > We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure if we > > > > told people to use emerge-webrsync to fetch the i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs due lavajoe retirement

2012-12-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 21:41:35 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Alec Warner > wrote: > > Look, if you want to make a policy about the stuff, then make a > > policy, get council approval, and write it down. > > Don't make up silly half-solutions. > > Sure, but I'm not awa

Re: Proxy maintainers in metadata.xml (was Re: [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds)

2012-12-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:51:36 + Markos Chandras wrote: > Bug-wranglers are supposed to do that by default. When you see a > non-gentoo developer in metadata.xml, the default action is to assume his is > the real maintainer and the bugs should be assigned to him. Such > guidance should be docume

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Peter Stuge
Matt Turner wrote: > I think we should consider things that break release media serious > regressions. I think we should consider things that break anything serious regressions. Why should release media be more special than anything else? My email and bugzilla sweep a few days ago was during a s

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2012 06:50 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Matt Turner wrote: >> I have never once been able to grab a portage snapshot and build a >> stage 1, 2, 3 series from it without encountering at least a couple of >> proble

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:53:02 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Does it really have to be useflag? Can't we simply just install the > file every time like we do with everything else? Logrotate/normal > initscripts/etc/etc. > > There should be no issue with that if we install the service files > every t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Does it really have to be useflag? Can't we simply just install the > file every time like we do with everything else? Logrotate/normal > initscripts/etc/etc. > > There should be no issue with that if we install the service files > every time,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Does it really have to be useflag? Can't we simply just install the file every time like we do with everything else? Logrotate/normal initscripts/etc/etc. There should be no issue with that if we install the service files every time, they just take few kbs in /etc/

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=systemd

2012-12-08 Thread Michał Górny
A growing number of packages use USE=systemd in a semi-controlled way. Therefore, I suggest establishing a global flag described as: systemd - Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and services like socket activation or session tracking $ quse -D systemd local:systemd:app-admin/openrc-setti

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > I have never once been able to grab a portage snapshot and build a > stage 1, 2, 3 series from it without encountering at least a couple of > problems with the tree. Ditto - the latest issue I've run into is: 443472. Probably won't impact the

Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass: handle verbose build log for egamesconf in EAPI<5

2012-12-08 Thread hasufell
On 12/02/2012 05:39 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > There are better ways to do this. > > For example you can just grep through the configure file, not having > to invoke it, see the xorg-2.elass > --- games.eclass +++ games.eclass @@ -39,12 +39,21 @@ } egamesconf() { + # handle verbose buil