On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> I just get annoyed with the "don't use Gentoo unless you like your
>> stuff broken" attitude.
>
> Don't confuse stuff changing with stuff breaking - they are very
> different things.
>
> In Gentoo stuff changes every s
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 12/01/2012 09:48 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:28:26 +0100 as
>> excerpted:
>>
>>> If this change is applied anyway, I suggest to at least produce a news
>>> item in order to not surprise users about the sudden loss of t
Peter Stuge wrote:
> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> I just get annoyed with the "don't use Gentoo unless you like your
>> stuff broken" attitude.
> Don't confuse stuff changing with stuff breaking - they are very
> different things.
>
> In Gentoo stuff changes every single day. I heard that gentoo-x86
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> I just get annoyed with the "don't use Gentoo unless you like your
> stuff broken" attitude.
Don't confuse stuff changing with stuff breaking - they are very
different things.
In Gentoo stuff changes every single day. I heard that gentoo-x86
gets some number of commits p
On 01/12/2012 20:50, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> And most people don't even know that metadata.xml exists.
But I do expect them to know `equery uses` like Dustin said. The fact
that some flags are not clearly described in metadata.xml is another
problem.
> In my previous message, I said, "but you s
On 12/01/2012 11:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 01/12/2012 20:09, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> The only way to know what's going on is to read the ebuild. And nobody
>> has the time to do that for every default USE flag change, especially
>> when you're managing multiple machines.
>>
>> In thi
On 12/1/2012 22:21, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
If anything, what you just say would call for making openldap follow the
39 packages already out there using IUSE=+server, so that there is no
doubt that changing the default on desktop profile from USE=-minimal to
USE=-server means that _you're losin
On 01/12/2012 20:09, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> The only way to know what's going on is to read the ebuild. And nobody
> has the time to do that for every default USE flag change, especially
> when you're managing multiple machines.
>
> In this case, USE="-minimal" is really USE="make_it_work_at_al
On 12/01/2012 10:50 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 01/12/2012 19:44, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> Someone's going to reboot three months after this change and their whole
>> office is going to be down while they try to figure out why they don't
>> have an LDAP server. For even a small business, t
On 01/12/2012 19:44, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> Someone's going to reboot three months after this change and their whole
> office is going to be down while they try to figure out why they don't
> have an LDAP server. For even a small business, that could mean
> thousands of dollars.
>
> "Ha ha, you
On 12/01/2012 09:48 PM, Duncan wrote:
> Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:28:26 +0100 as
> excerpted:
>
>> If this change is applied anyway, I suggest to at least produce a news
>> item in order to not surprise users about the sudden loss of their
>> openldap server.
>
>
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:28:26 +0100 as
excerpted:
> If this change is applied anyway, I suggest to at least produce a news
> item in order to not surprise users about the sudden loss of their
> openldap server.
I wouldn't object to a news item. More information
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>> Look, if you want to make a policy about the stuff, then make a
>> policy, get council approval, and write it down.
>> Don't make up silly half-solutions.
>
> Sure, but I'm not aware of any
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> Look, if you want to make a policy about the stuff, then make a
> policy, get council approval, and write it down.
> Don't make up silly half-solutions.
Sure, but I'm not aware of any policy at all concerning packages that
contain bundled libra
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:46:34 -0500 as excerpted:
>
>> And if we force some types of packages to be masked all the time, then
>> what do we do if we actually need to mask them for removal or security.
>> Users
Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 01 Dec 2012 08:46:34 -0500 as excerpted:
> And if we force some types of packages to be masked all the time, then
> what do we do if we actually need to mask them for removal or security.
> Users won't even realize they have a known flaw, because they had to
> unmask t
Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb:
> In
> the mean time, I would suggest that, since the desktop profiles already
> have USE=ldap enabled, we should default on the same profiles to
>
> net-nds/openldap minimal
>
> to make sure that the default desktop users don't get a copy of openldap
> (server) instal
Tomáš Chvátal schrieb:
> Bundling few libs and bundling 40 of them is bit of difference, will YOU do
> the audit?
> Also other teams actively work on the unbundling, while there is track of no
> will to actually make it buildable with system libs.
>
> Also the security is not the only problem he
So Thomáš posted today [1] that the new LibreOffice 4 is going to _need_
an LDAP provider in the future because they are not going to keep it
optional as it is now. Right now, the only provider we have in portage
(as far as me and him can tell) is openldap (although mozldap also exists).
This made
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:35:07AM -0800, Zac Medico wrote:
> > However, I'm not aware of gnu tar's incremental archive. If it's much
> > faster than the above, then it should probably replace
> > emerge-delta-webrsync.
> If it has benefits over the current diffball approach used by
> emerge-delta-
On 01/12/12 23:50, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 01/12/12 12:55, Markos Chandras wrote:
Hi,
net-im/skype needs a maintainer. It's currently maintained by the
net-im team which is not very active.
If you look at the ChangeLog you will see that for the past few years
random developers are trying to k
On 01/12/12 12:55, Markos Chandras wrote:
Hi,
net-im/skype needs a maintainer. It's currently maintained by the
net-im team which is not very active.
If you look at the ChangeLog you will see that for the past few years
random developers are trying to keep it
up to date ( and thanks for that! ).
On Thursday 29 November 2012 23:37:18 Duncan wrote:
> Obviously that specific solution won't work for the multiple blas/
> whatever packages, since it's single-package/multi-version specific, but
> is there some variant of it that could work, keeping the code out of
> eclasses where the not-for-gen
On 01/12/2012 01:59, Wolfram Schlich wrote:
> - RAID controller utils:
Maybe we should add sysadmin herd as fallback for these?
> sys-block/hpacucli(HP/Compaq Smart Array)
This one I can help with in the immediate future since I have a couple
of servers needing it at work.
> sys-process/fcr
On Dec 1, 2012 5:01 AM, "Wolfram Schlich" wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Feel free to take care of the following packages that I used to
> maintain a while ago but don't anymore due to change of interest:
>
> sys-block/tw_cli(3ware)
> dev-db/mysql-proxy
> If you're interested in any of these, just co
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Bundling few libs and bundling 40 of them is bit of difference, will YOU do
> the audit?
We don't require security audits for packages to be in portage. Any
package can have a security problem, whether it is in a bundled lib or
otherwise. B
Dne So 1. prosince 2012 06:42:13, Rich Freeman napsal(a):
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Tomáš Chvátal
wrote:
> > Dne Pá 30. listopadu 2012 20:37:22, Pacho Ramos napsal(a):
> >> media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin -> this package is "special", it's
> >> maintained by a proxy maintainer but it
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Dne Pá 30. listopadu 2012 20:37:22, Pacho Ramos napsal(a):
>> media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin -> this package is "special", it's
>> maintained by a proxy maintainer but it was reassigned to
>> maintainer-needed instead of proxy-maint herd
Hi,
net-im/skype needs a maintainer. It's currently maintained by the
net-im team which is not very active.
If you look at the ChangeLog you will see that for the past few years
random developers are trying to keep it
up to date ( and thanks for that! ). However it would be nice to find
a maintain
Hi!
Feel free to take care of the following packages that I used to
maintain a while ago but don't anymore due to change of interest:
- RAID controller utils:
sys-block/afacli(older Adaptec)
sys-block/dellmgr (older Dell-branded LSI MegaRAID)
sys-block/hpacucli (HP/Compaq Smar
On 11/30/2012 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements all
> the stuff you just said?
>
> Note that from an infra POV our existing system works fairly well and
> requires no day-to-day tinkering.
> I'm always happy to consider new options, bu
On 11/30/2012 01:06 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 30/11/12 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>>> How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements
>>> all the stuff you just said?
>
>
> Well, using emerge-webrsync for grabbing the initial snapshot during
> an installation still make
On 11/30/2012 09:55 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 30/11/12 12:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> How about we not change the docs until someone eagerly implements
> all the stuff you just said?
>
> Well, using emerge-webrsync for gra
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