Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/11/2012 19:23, Steven J. Long wrote: > He's right tho: the topic was "Why doesn't your tinderbox work with > overlays?" Your response was to insult Arfrever and not actually answer > the point. _Arfrever himself_ point to my reason in that blog post, FFS. > Not that I agree with the argumen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: > He's right tho: the topic was "Why doesn't your tinderbox work with > overlays?" Your response was to insult Arfrever and not actually answer > the point. Well, nobody is paying Diego to make a tinderbox that works with overlays. He actual

[gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 01:00:14 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > This has nothing to do with dependencies not getting rebuilt when the library > does. It's about switching to an earlier compiler version and having > every single package depending on that library fail to build due to something > that is non-

[gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Steven J. Long
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:50:13PM -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Dirty experiments, no. Testing stuff that's almost ready, yes. If you > run the tinderbox against dirty experiments, the time _I_ pour in to > sort through the logs report bugs is wasted because they'll hit stupid > hacks that fa

[gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:30:06 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > I guess it will be difficult for representatives from a given distribution to > "fix" very much upstream, if possible I think that the distribution should > instead be fixed to deal with the limits imposed by upstream practises. Also, the am

[gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:30:06 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > You can NOT > > I am not saying that it is a good idea, but of course you can. It has > pretty sucky effects on how your library can be used, disabling > various smart stuff that modern systems do, but I guess the upstre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-11-01 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 10/31/12 11:13 PM, Graham Murray wrote: > Ryan Hill writes: > >> Christ on a $#@%! crutch. You can NOT auto-enable C++11 in your library >> based >> on a configure test and then stuff flags that are not supported by previous >> compiler versions into pkg-config for library consumers. Somebo

[gentoo-dev] MySQL 5.5 releasing to ~arch

2012-11-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi all, I know it's been much awaited, but I didn't have a lot of faith in it previously, so I didn't want to destroy the systems of our ~arch users by releasing MySQL/MariaDB 5.5.x on them. However, as of today, I believe that it is sufficiently ready to be used on ~arch systems, and I will be u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Documenting touching of arch profiles' files

2012-11-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 04:51:52PM -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 01/11/2012 16:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > I'm going to put the following masks in for the above: > If you're already doing the job would you mind just masking the use flag > globally, and not just for mysql/mariadb? I did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Documenting touching of arch profiles' files

2012-11-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/11/2012 16:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > I'm going to put the following masks in for the above: If you're already doing the job would you mind just masking the use flag globally, and not just for mysql/mariadb? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeye

Re: [gentoo-dev] Documenting touching of arch profiles' files

2012-11-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 12:47:34AM +1100, Michael Palimaka wrote: > Hi all, > > With regards to bug #304435[1], we would like to formalise the policy > for touching arch profiles' files. > > The key suggested points: Ok, this then clears the way for MySQL 5.5 to enter the tree. bug #351931: dev

[gentoo-dev] The problem with new dev-python/argparse and REQUIRED_USE

2012-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, Recently I have committed a new dev-python/argparse revision. I have migrated it to distutils-r1 and enabled building only for those Python versions which don't have argparse built-in. Sadly, I had to package.mask it since it suffers a REQUIRED_USE issue on modern systems. For those who ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:42:52 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Shortly saying, devmanual in wiki would mostly consist of HTML tagsoup > > intermixed with wiki text. For the very simple reason that MediaWiki > > lags markup for as basic things as in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-11-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100 > Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into >> > the devmanua

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100 Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into > > the devmanual[3]. > > > > As the project has grown, so has the amount - and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:59:09 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are > > willing to do the work of filing the bugs? > > Yeah, that kind of sucks. Perhaps we should extend the privilege a > little more often? In this case no prior history help

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-11-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 31.10.2012 14.39, Michael Palimaka wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] >> into the devmanual[3]. >> >> As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of >> development

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-11-01 Thread Petteri Räty
On 31.10.2012 14.39, Michael Palimaka wrote: > Hi all, > > In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] > into the devmanual[3]. > > As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of > development information. I believe consolidation of this information > i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/11/12 10:10 AM, Georg Rudoy wrote: > 2012/11/1 Jamie Learmonth : >> Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't >> we just start packaging more of these packages as binaries then >> or bundling the needed version like the re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread hasufell
On 11/01/2012 02:50 PM, Jamie Learmonth wrote: > Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just > start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the > needed version like the rest of the world does anyways? You lost faith in our ways, maybe dberkholz c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread Georg Rudoy
2012/11/1 Jamie Learmonth : > Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just > start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the > needed version like the rest of the world does anyways? So are you suggesting to package all the binaries that depend up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/11/2012 06:50, Jamie Learmonth wrote: > > Who's with me? Not me. If you're just looking for another binary distribution, CentOS is there. Or Sabayon. Or Ubuntu. Pick your poison. But I use and _develop_ Gentoo because I _want_, and sometimes just _need_ source based! Sometiems it's becaus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread Jamie Learmonth
Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the needed version like the rest of the world does anyways? For many packages and systems (in this day and age of personal computing power) the advantage of so

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >>> Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you >>> should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. >> >> What if you don't have the privilege to assign

[gentoo-dev] Documenting touching of arch profiles' files

2012-11-01 Thread Michael Palimaka
Hi all, With regards to bug #304435[1], we would like to formalise the policy for touching arch profiles' files. The key suggested points: * Archs profiles should generally only be touched by members of that arch team, unless prior permission is given * Exception: anyone may add a mask to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > And even if that, you have no right to remove maintainers > from a package or unCC them from bugs just because you don't like them > or disagree with their opinion. Especially that you are not > a maintainer of this package. > To be honest,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/01/2012 03:59 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >>> Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you >>> should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. >> >> What if y

[gentoo-dev] Re: Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-11-01 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > I've created licenses/HPND [1] now, and added it to the @OSI-APPROVED > group. So packages whose license matches this template can be changed > from as-is to HPND. (And please, _only_ OSD-compliant packages. > We don't want the same mess again, as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-

2012-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:58:16 -0700 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 31/10/2012 11:49, Michał Górny wrote: > > In other words, you have thrown a big, destructive change to live, > > stable systems without prior testing (and don't say you were able to > > test it thoroughly in one day's time) and you

Re: [gentoo-dev] About unresolved bugs assigned to mobile for ages

2012-11-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/10/12 19:02, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 09:50 +, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello I would like to know about mobile team status and also show that this team has important bugs assigned to them for a long time, som

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >> Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you >> should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. > > What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are willing to > do the work of filing the bugs? Ye