Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 08:14 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:07:39 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 17:43 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200 > > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > > > Seriously, what people is s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:07:39 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 17:43 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4? > > > If there are doubts about its

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:37 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:57 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would > > you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman > > warning? > > In my opi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 17:43 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4? > > If there are doubts about its usage, they should be asked and resolved > > instead of ignored kee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: > >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: > >>> I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find > >>> if I have time... what prevents me fro

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Sentences in English not only need to end with a dot but also require a > subject > and a predicate. Another repoman check? And don't forget the topic for Japanese.

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 19/10/2012 21:36, Thomas Sachau ha scritto: Pacho Ramos schrieb: Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions I dont know any such requirement from engli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > This is not about "having problems with handling eapi-X", this is just > about limited time and the choice where to spend that time. If you do > just a version bump, you often dont have to touch the ebuild at all, > just copy, test, commit an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4? > If there are doubts about its usage, they should be asked and resolved > instead of ignored keeping ebuilds with older eapis. The only eapi > that probably adds no advant

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find >>> if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that >>> changes to ebuilds not maintained by me

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:57 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would > you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman > warning? In my opinion, descriptions should not be sentences. Sentences in English not only nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 21:01 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Hello > > At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would > you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman > warning? > > Thanks for your opinions In English, it is also mandatory to end sentenc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find > > if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that > > changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not knowing if deve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find > if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that > changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not knowing if developers > agree on using latest eapi if possible. A more general soluti

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > Hello > > At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would > you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman > warning? > > Thanks for your opinions > I dont know any such requirement from english nor german and neither do i see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 15:47 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: [...] > > Because it will add even more work, I mean: > > - I catch a package using and old eapi and, then, still not passing > > --disable-silent-rules option. => First problem, I need to notice that > > package, there are packages I s

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Hello > > At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would > you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman > warning? > > Thanks for your opinions > I don't really see the advantage or upside. Engl

[gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot "."

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ".", would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:09:15 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is > > > technically better, we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > [...] > > > What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is > > technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I > > mean, when, for example,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: [...] > What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is > technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I > mean, when, for example, eclasses are ported) for a "QA" reasoning. i think we all agree that there ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 18-10-2012 a las 15:35 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Personally I see no major difficult in moving to eapi4, what exact > > difficult are you (I mean people still sticking with eapi0/1) seeing? > > It is harder than cp. :) > > If

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass error-handling post-EAPI4

2012-10-19 Thread Zac Medico
On 10/19/2012 07:23 AM, Gregory M. Turner wrote: > I'm cooking up some eclass functions and it occurred to me that perhaps > I had some responsibility regarding EAPI4's new error handling > semantics. After looking into it, it seems that, superficially, the > answer to my question is "no, the EAPI

[gentoo-dev] eclass error-handling post-EAPI4

2012-10-19 Thread Gregory M. Turner
I'm cooking up some eclass functions and it occurred to me that perhaps I had some responsibility regarding EAPI4's new error handling semantics. After looking into it, it seems that, superficially, the answer to my question is "no, the EAPI4 changes only apply to ebuild helpers." Even so, t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: reworking python-wrapper and wrapper scripts.

2012-10-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:37:13 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > Offhand... and this makes it a bit more complex, but still tenuable > imo, but we could get around this via shoving the symlink pathway into > the shebang itself. > > scenario 1: > Script gets installed for 2.7, 3.1, 3.2; ignoring the s