Re: [gentoo-dev] Addressing GLEP-62 itself

2012-09-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/27/2012 01:30 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/09/12 04:13 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 09/27/2012 12:53 PM, Brian Harring wrote: >>> Bullshit. This is optional in the sense of embrace/extend >>> 'optional'; if one PM takes up the new functionality, all have to >>> switch to writing unfina

Re: [gentoo-dev] Addressing GLEP-62 itself

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/09/12 04:13 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 09/27/2012 12:53 PM, Brian Harring wrote: >> Bullshit. This is optional in the sense of embrace/extend >> 'optional'; if one PM takes up the new functionality, all have to >> switch to writing unfinalized

Re: [gentoo-dev] Addressing GLEP-62 itself

2012-09-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/27/2012 12:53 PM, Brian Harring wrote: > Bullshit. This is optional in the sense of embrace/extend 'optional'; > if one PM takes up the new functionality, all have to switch to > writing unfinalized deps to the VDB, and all have to switch to > transfering that IUSE_RUNTIME crap to the VDB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Addressing GLEP-62 itself

2012-09-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 07:25:11PM -0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:02:57 -0700 > Brian Harring wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 02:38:02PM -0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > IUSE_RUNTIME is optional for PMs, why does the UI matter at all ? > > > Also, the proposal doesn't a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: toolchain-funcs.eclass patch to fix bug 432390

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Patch committed ; timing worked out that vapier and I were on irc at the same time, and toolchain approval was granted. Vapier did mention (on the bug as well as in-channel) that perhaps 'tc-arch-kernel' should move to linux-info.eclass ... If anyo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: toolchain-funcs.eclass patch to fix bug 432390

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/09/12 01:55 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > Hey all -- it's been a month since 432390 was filed; and this bug > is keeping lirc-0.9.0-r2 from going stable. If nobody objects > within the next 24h or so, I'm going to apply the following patch > t

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: >> wbrana wrote: >>> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations >>> "Donate to support our development efforts." >>> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain >>> advertisements. >>> >>> >> >> My questions are this:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's populate IUSE_IMPLICIT in the base profile

2012-09-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/27/2012 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/09/12 12:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> On 27/09/12 11:57 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Zac Medico >>> wrote: Hi, The council has approved [1] "Profile IUSE injection" [2] for inclusion

[gentoo-dev] RFC: toolchain-funcs.eclass patch to fix bug 432390

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey all -- it's been a month since 432390 was filed; and this bug is keeping lirc-0.9.0-r2 from going stable. If nobody objects within the next 24h or so, I'm going to apply the following patch to toolchain-funcs.eclass to fix the bug. The patch do

Re: [gentoo-dev] patch eutils.eclass for EAPI 5

2012-09-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:30:21AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > On 09/27/2012 10:16 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 27/09/12 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 09/27/2012 09:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>> As far as I can see, only the definition of the usex function > >>> must be disabled. Pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's populate IUSE_IMPLICIT in the base profile

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/09/12 12:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/09/12 11:57 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Zac Medico >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> The council has approved [1] "Profile IUSE injection" [2] for >>> inclusion in EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] patch eutils.eclass for EAPI 5

2012-09-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/27/2012 10:16 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/09/12 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 09/27/2012 09:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> As far as I can see, only the definition of the usex function >>> must be disabled. Please review the patch included below. >>> >>> Ulrich >>> >>> --- eutil

Re: [gentoo-dev] patch eutils.eclass for EAPI 5

2012-09-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/27/2012 10:07 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 09/27/2012 09:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> As far as I can see, only the definition of the usex function must be >> disabled. Please review the patch included below. >> >> Ulrich >> >> --- eutils.eclass15 Sep 2012 16:16:53 - 1.403 >> ++

Re: [gentoo-dev] patch eutils.eclass for EAPI 5

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/09/12 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 09/27/2012 09:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> As far as I can see, only the definition of the usex function >> must be disabled. Please review the patch included below. >> >> Ulrich >> >> --- eutils.ecla

Re: [gentoo-dev] patch eutils.eclass for EAPI 5

2012-09-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/27/2012 09:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > As far as I can see, only the definition of the usex function must be > disabled. Please review the patch included below. > > Ulrich > > --- eutils.eclass 15 Sep 2012 16:16:53 - 1.403 > +++ eutils.eclass 27 Sep 2012 16:45:14 - >

[gentoo-dev] patch eutils.eclass for EAPI 5

2012-09-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
As far as I can see, only the definition of the usex function must be disabled. Please review the patch included below. Ulrich --- eutils.eclass 15 Sep 2012 16:16:53 - 1.403 +++ eutils.eclass 27 Sep 2012 16:45:14 - @@ -1373,7 +1373,9 @@ # @DESCRIPTION: # If USE flag is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's populate IUSE_IMPLICIT in the base profile

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/09/12 11:57 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Zac Medico > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The council has approved [1] "Profile IUSE injection" [2] for >> inclusion in EAPI 5, and in latest Portage we have experimental >> EAPI 5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's populate IUSE_IMPLICIT in the base profile

2012-09-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > Hi, > > The council has approved [1] "Profile IUSE injection" [2] for inclusion > in EAPI 5, and in latest Portage we have experimental EAPI 5_pre2 [3] > which implements all of the approved features. So, now would be a good > time to start popu

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.09.2012 09:22, schrieb Florian Philipp: > Am 26.09.2012 23:53, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Florian Philipp >> wrote: >>> Am 26.09.2012 22:43, schrieb Matt Turner: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > A few months ago, I filed bug 42365

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Alec Warner wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: wbrana wrote: > Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations > "Donate to su

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Alec Warner wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: >>> wbrana wrote: Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations "Donate to support our development efforts." Gentoo could get more mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: >> wbrana wrote: >>> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations >>> "Donate to support our development efforts." >>> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain >>> advertisements. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: > wbrana wrote: >> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations >> "Donate to support our development efforts." >> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. >> >> > > > My questions are this: Does Gentoo need more money?

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
wbrana wrote: > Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations > "Donate to support our development efforts." > Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. > > My questions are this: Does Gentoo need more money? Is it in need of more funds to support itself? Dale :-

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wbrana wrote: > Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations > "Donate to support our development efforts." > Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. > You already filed a bug against infra / www asking for this, and we told you tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:23 AM, wbrana wrote: > Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations > "Donate to support our development efforts." > Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. I run a technical website with around 6k visits per day, and my experience is that

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Michael Mol wrote: > A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the > install media be replaced with pbzip2. It was closed a short while > later, telling me that it'd involve changing what's kept in @system, > and that had to be discussed here, rather than

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-27 Thread Piotr Szymaniak
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:43:27PM -0700, Matt Turner wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > > A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install > > media be replaced with > > pbzip2. It was closed a short while later, telling me that it'd > > involve c

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-27 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > A different question is whether in the cases where parallel bzip2 makes > sense, is it really the best solution? xz is outperforming bzip2's > compression ratio for large files (for an informal comparison, see bug > 434350). And xz is

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.09.2012 23:53, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Florian Philipp > wrote: >> Am 26.09.2012 22:43, schrieb Matt Turner: >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol wrote: A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install media be repl