Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Thinking in that direction does stimulate yet another idea, tho. What > about a squashfs root? AFAIK squashfs is read-only at use time, thus > enforcing actually mounting something else to write anything, eliminating > many o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:48:55 -0400 as excerpted: > >> Giving it a little thought, the simplest tmpfs-based root would be one >> that defines a tarball as a the root. The system would create a tmpfs, >> extr

[gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:48:55 -0400 as excerpted: > Giving it a little thought, the simplest tmpfs-based root would be one > that defines a tarball as a the root. The system would create a tmpfs, > extract the tarball to it, and then use the existing fstab-sys module to > mount

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-07-15 23h59 UTC

2012-07-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-07-15 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-misc/remmina-plugins2012-07-09 02:47:44 floppym gnustep-apps/projectmanager 2012-07-09 08:42:59 voyageur gnustep-apps/keyarcher

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +, Duncan wrote > They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing > that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring > their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble, but of > course that's now part of the kernel/use

Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:08:45 -0500 > Doug Goldstein wrote: >> Is it valid to do something like: >> >> move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins >> move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins >> move media-plugin

Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Zac Medico
On 07/15/2012 03:08 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Is it valid to do something like: > > move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins > move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins > move media-plugins/mythgallery media-plugins/mythplugins > move media-plugins/mythgame media-p

Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:08:45 -0500 Doug Goldstein wrote: > Is it valid to do something like: > > move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins > move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins > move media-plugins/mythgallery media-plugins/mythplugins > move media-plugins/myth

[gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Goldstein
Is it valid to do something like: move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgallery media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgame media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythmovies media-plu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > So I have the general idea, > but doing it from an initr* with limited tools available will be > interesting. > Dracut modules can specify any tools they need, and they will be loaded into the initramfs. Obviously you'll want

[gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:30:31 -0400 as excerpted: > Looking at the docs it seems like you'd need a hook for the cmdline > stage that sets rootok (assuming it gets that far without a root, or if > you set it to something like root=TMPFS). Then you'd install a hook to > mount to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Certainly. But it is likely much more interesting work and has > considerably more impact. The mentoring period and the review have considerable impact too. Whether you think one is more important than the other depends on you thinking short

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 11:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > (Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) > > Markos Chandras wrote: >> In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is >> required for someone to start developing for Gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:36:05 +0200 > Davide Pesavento wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michał Górny >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 >> > Davide Pesavento wrote: >> > >> >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Micha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:36:05 +0200 Davide Pesavento wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michał Górny > wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 > > Davide Pesavento wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny > >> wrote: > >> > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 > Davide Pesavento wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny >> wrote: >> > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 >> > Davide Pesavento wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Alexi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > less idiotic > idiots such as perhaps myself need years because we're doing > whatever work as opposed to learning foundation bylaws by heart. Well, I don't think the bylaws are a terribly important topic for the quizzes, and unless somethin

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-misc/ssh-installkeys

2012-07-15 Thread Michael Palimaka
# Michael Palimaka (15 Jul 2012) # Bundles dev-python/pexpect (bug #315843) # Replaced by ssh-copy-id from net-misc/openssh. # Removal in 30 days. net-misc/ssh-installkeys

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one >> or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and >> usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > you need to set aside a block of time (and usually two > > ...and you don't need to be able to put in that level of attention > every now and again when you're a developer? Not the same amount of meta time, no. I agree with the estimate of about two days for the quizze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one > or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and > usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more if you need to > break it up or iterate over it after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:27, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 >> Ben de Groot wrote: >>> The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having >>> been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 Davide Pesavento wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny > wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 > > Davide Pesavento wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Alexis Ballier > >> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:26:58 +0200

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:25:02 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:33:59 -0400 >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> > Some other questionable ones: >> > emboss - Adds support for the European Molecular Biology Open >> >> We've had this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: >> The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having >> been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo >> dev, and the second time I did the quizzes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > I've been managing my own overlay and a few private ones for a few > years now, all while using catalyst to build more or less customized > Linux systems for me and for others. > > I dive into bugzilla when a bug bites, and I'll usually generat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:57:41 -0400 as excerpted: >> >> I doubt anybody has tried it, so you'll have to experiment. > > "Anybody" /anybody/, or "anybody" on gentoo? FWIW, there are people > running it in gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having > been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo > dev, and the second time I did the quizzes it took me 3 months. > I've seen others take a long time doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 > Davide Pesavento wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Alexis Ballier >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:26:58 +0200 >> > Davide Pesavento wrote: >> > >> >> > [...] >> >> >> + # backward co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Saturday 14 of July 2012 10:32:04 Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear Gentoo Community, > > If you are not a recruit, mentor, or wannabe mentor you may stop > reading now. > > We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the > recru

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
(Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) Markos Chandras wrote: > In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is > required for someone to start developing for Gentoo. Yes, maybe > it requires too much knowledge So which is it? "All that is required" or "too much?"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 06:15 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 15 July 2012 04:46, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Markos Chandras wrote: >>> understand that quizzes is not an ideal way to "hire" people >>> either, but they worked ok for all these years >> >> I don't kno

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:25:02 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:33:59 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > Some other questionable ones: > > emboss - Adds support for the European Molecular Biology Open > > We've had this discussion before... The question is not "are people > likely