[gentoo-dev] Re: grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Duncan
Richard Yao posted on Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:10:31 -0400 as excerpted: > On 06/29/2012 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Ju

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2012-06-29 Thread teravice
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Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/29/2012 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > GRUB2 does away with the conven

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a special B

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a >>> special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it >

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into >> the MBR and embeds core.img into the sectors immediately after the >> MBR. > > Ok, that isn't all that unlike grub

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into > the MBR and embeds core.img into the sectors immediately after the > MBR. Ok, that isn't all that unlike grub1 - that is what stage1.5 is. It just sounds like these aren'

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a >> special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it >> stores the equivalent of the stage2 bootcode. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be >> used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive >> shell and grub2-install must be used. Theref

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a > special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it > stores the equivalent of the stage2 bootcode. That is similar to > FreeBSD's bootloader. Now, that should

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/29/2012 02:38 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be >> used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive >> shell and grub2-install must be used. Therefore, copyi

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be > used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive > shell and grub2-install must be used. Therefore, copying files to > /boot in the ebuild is completely p

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> As far as I can tell, grub:0 only half-way updates itself; there is a >> large ewarn telling the user that they must take action to install the >> new version in the MBR. This seems a b

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > As far as I can tell, grub:0 only half-way updates itself; there is a > large ewarn telling the user that they must take action to install the > new version in the MBR. This seems a bit broken to me. In what way. As far as I can tell I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Feature Request/RFC : "Elective" virtuals

2012-06-29 Thread Kent Fredric
> > Perhaps it would be best to tell users that if they'd like to see the > possible choices they can run ie 'qdepends -r virtual/cron' > Quite, perhaps it could be a seperate mechanism, it would just seem that for virtuals that just provide a list of alternatives, having a seperate package that g

Re: [gentoo-dev] euscan GSoC project - requesting feedback

2012-06-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On 30 June 2012 00:13, Corentin Chary wrote: > It's already the case: > https://github.com/iksaif/euscan/blob/master/pym/euscan/handlers/cpan.py > but my mangling functions are probably broken in some cases. If > somebody with a better knowledge of CPAN versionning scheme could fix > them it woul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan GSoC project - requesting feedback

2012-06-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On 29 June 2012 17:32, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > EUSCAN_VERSION=0.71 > > I don't know how difficult that would be for euscan to pickup on, but > since this would have no bearing on actual package behavior, only on > euscan, I'd guess it shouldn't require going thru the formal PMS pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 29 June 2012 01:59:37 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I w

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 29 June 2012 01:59:37 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would > >> like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly aft

GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5))

2012-06-29 Thread Thomas Sachau
Brian Harring schrieb: > > You need a glep here frankly; per the norm, if you want things to move > faster, then put in time- aka, generate a patch against PMS, write a > patch for portage, etc, you get the idea. The bit re: a PMS patch is > mostly that in looking at your proposal... well, I p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Feature Request/RFC : "Elective" virtuals

2012-06-29 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/06/12 09:41 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > I was doing a fresh Gentoo install today, following the manual, and > it appeared to me that the manual suggests to install a "logger" > and a "cron", and gives some defacto suggestions. > > However, the a

Re: [gentoo-dev] euscan GSoC project - requesting feedback

2012-06-29 Thread Corentin Chary
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:07:58 +1200 > Kent Fredric wrote: > >> On 27 June 2012 19:51, Federico "fox" Scrinzi wrote: >> > The main question is: what would you like to have on this dashboard? >> > Currently (in the development version) there's

Re: [gentoo-dev] euscan GSoC project - requesting feedback

2012-06-29 Thread Corentin Chary
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 27 June 2012 19:51, Federico "fox" Scrinzi wrote: >> The main question is: what would you like to have on this dashboard? >> Currently (in the development version) there's the possibility to login >> and watch/unwatch packages/categories/h

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > I don't really see a way to reliably call grub2-install from the > ebuild, and I think this would be a bit unfriendly to the user anyway. > Please don't. We don't auto-install grub during the initial install, so we have NO idea how users h