Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 22-04-2012 21:25:40 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > BTW, how would a non-programmer (at least not C programmer) like me > forward these ideas to the Gentoo Council? Make sure you post pointers, with preferably a clear question, in reply to the next call for agenda items (this Tuesday). -- Fabi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/22/2012 06:25 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > systemd and udev are being merged into one tarball. For the "foreseeable > future", it will still build 2 separate binaries. What happens down the > road if/when it all becomes one combined binary? If becomes a problem, then it will be dealt with. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making user patches globally available

2012-04-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/22/2012 10:04 PM, Steven J Long wrote: > It seems there's two major cases, with autotools or without. In either case, > epatch_user should be called after Gentoo patches have been applied. > > Why not make epatch_user set a variable to indicate that patches have been > applied, and only ap

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making user patches globally available

2012-04-22 Thread Steven J Long
Ryan Hill wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: >> Funtoo has support for FEATURES=localpatch, which does the epatch_user >> thing before src_prepare. I think it should really go after src_prepare, >> in order to apply patches after those that src_prepare may apply >> (avoiding possible conflicts). > > I agr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 06:28:08AM +0100, Steven J Long wrote > who's going to either "port" udev as necessary, or maintain an > old version forever? > I will keep an old version going until the end of time. > dberkholz: My plan is to patch reasonable behaviour back into > udev, and going wit

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-04-22 23h59 UTC

2012-04-22 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-04-22 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-plugins/vdr-games 2012-04-16 12:51:23 hd_brummy sys-fs/bleachbit2012-04-16 20:19:52 ssuominen www-client/galeon

[gentoo-dev] Re: .LIBPATTERNS harmful?

2012-04-22 Thread Steven J Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 22 April 2012 00:44:11 Steven J Long wrote: >> I can find nothing overriding it in portage, which makes sense, since in >> general one cannot know if the package in question uses gmake >> .LIBPATTERNS to link to locally-built libs. However I can't help thinking >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/22/2012 10:55 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: >> Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> >>> | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) >>> | >>> |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported >>> |configuration. If it is, newer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 04/22/2012 05:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) >> | >> |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported >> |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and >> |alternatives sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] .LIBPATTERNS harmful?

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 22 April 2012 00:44:11 Steven J Long wrote: > I can find nothing overriding it in portage, which makes sense, since in > general one cannot know if the package in question uses gmake .LIBPATTERNS > to link to locally-built libs. However I can't help thinking of it as > harmful for a packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-apps/xsetmode & x11-apps/xsetpointer

2012-04-22 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:39:04 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > 120422 Michał Górny wrote: > > # Michał Górny (22 Apr 2012) > > # Obsolete and unmaintained. Their functions are provided by > > # x11-apps/xinput nowadays ('xinput set-mode' and 'xinput > > set-pointer' # respectively). Bug #411999. Masked

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-apps/xsetmode & x11-apps/xsetpointer

2012-04-22 Thread Philip Webb
120422 Samuli Suominen wrote: > xorg-x11 is a empty 'meta package' which doesn't install anything > you don't even need it -- most people just install xorg-server thesedays > to avoid "dozens of unnecessary dependencies" So it is. Thanks. I've removed both pkgs. -- ,,=

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-apps/xsetmode & x11-apps/xsetpointer

2012-04-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/22/2012 01:39 PM, Philip Webb wrote: 120422 Michał Górny wrote: # Michał Górny (22 Apr 2012) # Obsolete and unmaintained. Their functions are provided by # x11-apps/xinput nowadays ('xinput set-mode' and 'xinput set-pointer' # respectively). Bug #411999. Masked for removal in 30 days. x11

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-apps/xsetmode & x11-apps/xsetpointer

2012-04-22 Thread Philip Webb
120422 Michał Górny wrote: > # Michał Górny (22 Apr 2012) > # Obsolete and unmaintained. Their functions are provided by > # x11-apps/xinput nowadays ('xinput set-mode' and 'xinput set-pointer' > # respectively). Bug #411999. Masked for removal in 30 days. > x11-apps/xsetmode > x11-apps/xsetpointe

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Steven J Long
Ulrich Mueller wrote: > | 3. New udev and separate /usr partition (30 minutes) > | > |See [4]: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported > |configuration. If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and > |alternatives should be investigated. If it isn't, a lot of > |doc

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Steven J Long
Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Steven J Long wrote: >> And again, I ask: if it were *not* about running udev without an >> initramfs, then why would anyone even be discussing the possibility of >> patching or forking? >> > > Here is my interpretation: the council voted on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-22 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, Mike Gilbert wrote: > Here is my interpretation: the council voted on the following > question: > The question is: "Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a > supported configuration." > It did not decide the method that would be used to accomplish this. > A

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-apps/xsetmode & x11-apps/xsetpointer

2012-04-22 Thread Michał Górny
# Michał Górny (22 Apr 2012) # Obsolete and unmaintained. Their functions are provided by # x11-apps/xinput nowadays ('xinput set-mode' and 'xinput set-pointer' # respectively). Bug #411999. Masked for removal in 30 days. x11-apps/xsetmode x11-apps/xsetpointer <=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 -- Best