Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:40:01 -0600 Dale wrote: > >> I keep hoping that all the smart people involved in this will see > >> the mess it is creating. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but > >> I'm sharp enough to see the mess this is going to create and I'm > >> just a desktop user. I feel sor

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Dale
Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10.01.2012 19:56, Dale wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Micha?? Górny schrieb: Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? I guess

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Dale wrote: Took me days to get dracut to work. Where does 15 minutes come from? How much time does it take when the initramfs fails? I've used dracut on a few VMs now and on my main Gentoo box. My experience has been that it didn't take

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:56:11 -0600 Dale wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Micha?? Górny schrieb: Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? Because a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: news item for sys-apps/systemd -> /usr migration

2012-01-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:25 Fri 06 Jan , Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:29:53 -0500 > Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > I would suggest not removing the symlink unless there is a technical > > reason why its presence is undesirable. > > The symlink is distro-specific. Honestly, I'd get rid of it so

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10.01.2012 19:56, Dale wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico >> Weigelt wrote: >> >>> * Micha?? Górny schrieb: >>> Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? >>> I guess, he m

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Dale wrote: > Took me days to get dracut to work.  Where does 15 minutes come from?  How > much time does it take when the initramfs fails? I've used dracut on a few VMs now and on my main Gentoo box. My experience has been that it didn't take long to figure out,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:03:15 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > The mess was created by people shouting 'hey, real men use > separate /usr for no good reason! Be awesome like us'. You appear to be confusing "I don't understand this" with "no-one understands this". -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc De

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:56:11 -0600 Dale wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 > > Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > >> * Micha?? Górny schrieb: > >> > >>> Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? > >> I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? > > Be

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Micha?? Górny schrieb: Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? Because adding 80 KiB of initramfs hurts so much? We should then put more work jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Micha?? Górny schrieb: > > > Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? > > I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? Because adding 80 KiB of initramfs hurts so much? We should then put more work just to ensure

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Micha?? Górny schrieb: > Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: ogle, ogle-gui, goggles, zfs-fuse and ripmake

2012-01-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 10-01-2012 a las 12:39 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 01/09/2012 10:04 PM, Francesco Riosa wrote: > > 2012/1/9 Samuli Suominen: > >> # Samuli Suominen (09 Jan 2012) > >> # Fails to compile against recent glibc and multiple other issues. > >> # No maintainer to take care of the packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: ogle, ogle-gui, goggles, zfs-fuse and ripmake

2012-01-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/09/2012 10:04 PM, Francesco Riosa wrote: 2012/1/9 Samuli Suominen: # Samuli Suominen (09 Jan 2012) # Fails to compile against recent glibc and multiple other issues. # No maintainer to take care of the package. Removal in 30 days. # Bugs 325331, 284369, 380749, 388741, 381539, 358697, and