Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-07 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Freitag 06 Januar 2012, 17:07:20 schrieb Alex Alexander: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:35:32AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Alex Alexander wrote: > > > If people are really interested in keeping a tight, self contained > > > root, we need to: > > > > > > - esta

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Weber
On 01/07/2012 07:58 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > That seems like an awfully large initramfs to load into memory for every > boot, just to have it wiped from memory after switching to the real > root. It's fine as long as you're not trying to shave every last > microsecond off of your boot time though. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Walter Dnes schrieb: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:41:27PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote > > > This is just our donation, I'm hoping others will join in. > > For the actual development, half of the resources should be > > fine, but testing dozens of uncommon scenarios will eat up > > a multiple of

[gentoo-dev] RFC: global USE tcmalloc

2012-01-07 Thread Kacper Kowalik
Hi, seems more and more software starts to use this: dev-db/drizzle:tcmalloc dev-db/haildb:tcmalloc dev-db/redis:tcmalloc dev-lang/ruby-enterprise:tcmalloc dev-libs/libmemcached:tcmalloc sys-cluster/gearmand:tcmalloc - Use the dev-util/google-perftools libraries to replace the malloc() implement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Exorcising a d(a)emon from GNOME's past (aka EsounD Last Rites)

2012-01-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > On 01/04/2012 04:42 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: >> We've just made it optional in upstream git as well, so unless someone >> screams murder, I'm going to make esd support an off-by-default USE >> flag for media-sound/pulseaudio as well. >> > > MU

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-07 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 1/7/12 12:42 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Some functions in eutils.eclass address very special tasks, so I > wonder if they shouldn't be split out to dedicated eclasses: > > - CDROM functions (cdrom_get_cds, cdrom_load_next_cd). > These are used by some 40 ebuilds only, most of them in games-*

[gentoo-dev] RFD: split out some functions from eutils.eclass?

2012-01-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Some functions in eutils.eclass address very special tasks, so I wonder if they shouldn't be split out to dedicated eclasses: - CDROM functions (cdrom_get_cds, cdrom_load_next_cd). These are used by some 40 ebuilds only, most of them in games-*. Maybe they could be moved to a dedicated cdrom.e

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils 1/4] Support installing default docs, similarly to EAPI4.

2012-01-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:05:09 +0100 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> Yes, unfortunately some eclasses support DOCS only as an array, >> others only as a space-separated list. >> >> IMHO, when such code is touched, it should be changed in a way that >> both

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils 1/4] Support installing default docs, similarly to EAPI4.

2012-01-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:05:09 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Michał Górny wrote: > > >> Why only "similarly to EAPI 4" and not identical with it? The > >> latter would follow the principle of least surprise. > > > Well, the defaults are identical. And DOCS as non-array wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils 1/4] Support installing default docs, similarly to EAPI4.

2012-01-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Michał Górny wrote: >> Why only "similarly to EAPI 4" and not identical with it? The >> latter would follow the principle of least surprise. > Well, the defaults are identical. And DOCS as non-array was never > supported. Yes, unfortunately some eclasses support DOCS on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH autotools-utils 1/4] Support installing default docs, similarly to EAPI4.

2012-01-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:15:50 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Michał Górny wrote: > > > if [[ ${DOCS} ]]; then > > dodoc "${DOCS[@]}" || die "dodoc failed" > > + else > > + local f > > + # same list as in PMS > > + for f in RE

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:41:39 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > In my 3 gig /usr directory, over 2 gigs are devoted to > Gentoo-specific stuff that a binary distro like Redhat does not > require. What do we do if /usr is read-only? Symlink or bindmount > onto it? Remount read/write whenever necessa

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:58:58 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > An alternative approach to a having a bulky initramfs "recovery > partition" like yours would be to put the content of a livecd/usb > recovery disk onto a spare partition, and configure your lean busybox > initramfs to mount that as the root