Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux

2011-11-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 11 November 2011 17:01:43 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Do you need iproute2 at all? I think you could fall back to busybox if > iproute2 is not installed. that introduces an unnecessary level of instability for us to worry about imo. if we want iproute, we should execute `ip`

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux

2011-11-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 11 November 2011 16:53:44 William Hubbs wrote: > has prompted a discussion of whether or not we should use ifconfig in > openrc to configure networking on linux systems. no, the discussion is whether we should continue to have ifconfig be an option at all, not "always use ifconfig". as

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux

2011-11-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 12 November 2011 20:26:54 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Joshua Saddler schrieb: > > if net-tools isn't being dropped from the system set, don't force our > > users to install redundant utilities. > > ip is not redundant. You need it for e.g. GRE tunnels. for basic setups, it i

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 11/12/2011 06:49 PM, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote: > Then why not you and the other 2 guys that approved this change here > (and are the only people I saw approving this, TBH), add > --quiet-build=y to your default emerge opts and avoid this kind of > change? I like the new default. Anyone u

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux

2011-11-12 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Joshua Saddler schrieb: > if net-tools isn't being dropped from the system set, don't force our > users to install redundant utilities. ip is not redundant. You need it for e.g. GRE tunnels. net-tools uses the old /proc/net/dev interface, while iproute uses netlink. This is very much like wireles

[gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Duncan
Hilco Wijbenga posted on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:05:36 -0800 as excerpted: > By the way, is there a noticeable difference in build time (for > relatively large builds) when logging to the console is off? Not > important, just curious. There can be. AFAIK it's not too bad when output is to a vgacon t

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 12 November 2011 15:40, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: >> >> good point.  we don't want to punish old portage users.  let's enable it >> >> by default in portage itself then.  just add `elog` output to t

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: >> >> good point.  we don't want to punish old portage users.  let's enable it >> >> by default in portage itself then.  just add `elog` outpu

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> Lots of people in #gentoo are unhappy with it. > > most changes people will be unhappy with because it's different > This is objectively true. That's why you weigh changes based

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: > >> good point. we don't want to punish old portage users. let's enable it > >> by default in portage itself then. just add `elog` output to the > >> portage ebuild to inform users of the change ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: >>> >>> good point.  we don't want to punish old portage users.  let's enable it >>> by >>> default in portage itself then.  just add `elog` output to the portage >>> ebuild >>> to inform users of the chan

Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-12 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote: good point. we don't want to punish old portage users. let's enable it by default in portage itself then. just add `elog` output to the portage ebuild to inform users of the change ? or do we want a news item ? what's the flag to negate the default ? --n

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: =wxGTK-2.6* and =wxpython-2.6*

2011-11-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (12 Nov 2011) # Masked for removal in 30 days wrt bug 330683. Use at least 2.8. =dev-python/wxpython-2.6* =dev-python/wxpython-docs-2.6* =x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/ghostscript-gpl: metadata.xml ChangeLog ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild

2011-11-12 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-11-2011 09:25, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > I wonder what that has to do with "Fixed slotting for > media-libs/tiff"? > > Do we have a guideline or policy on using 2 spaces vs. tabs in > .xml files and gentoo-x86? Just asking because I prefer 2 s

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/ghostscript-gpl: metadata.xml ChangeLog ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild

2011-11-12 Thread justin
On 11/12/11 12:56 PM, justin wrote: > On 11/12/11 11:25 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 11/12/2011 12:21 PM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: >>> jlec11/11/12 10:21:37 >>> >>> Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog >>> ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild >>> Log: >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/ghostscript-gpl: metadata.xml ChangeLog ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild

2011-11-12 Thread justin
On 11/12/11 11:25 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 11/12/2011 12:21 PM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: >> jlec11/11/12 10:21:37 >> >> Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog >> ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild >> Log: >> Fixed slotting for media-libs/tiff >>

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: net-p2p/bittornado

2011-11-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (12 Nov 2011) # Masked for removal in 30 days since wxpython-2.6 is going away wrt bug 330683 net-p2p/bittornado

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/ghostscript-gpl: metadata.xml ChangeLog ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild

2011-11-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/12/2011 12:21 PM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > jlec11/11/12 10:21:37 > > Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog > ghostscript-gpl-9.04-r4.ebuild > Log: > Fixed slotting for media-libs/tiff > > (Portage version: 2.2.0_alpha73/cvs/Linux x86_64)