Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > It is a bit hard to document a generic testing process. Each package > has different requirements. We tried to document a generic workflow in > amd64 AT[1] and in the AT quiz as well. Sure, and that's pretty much the method I use, and I im

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 13:37 Wed 21 Sep 2011, Rich Freeman wrote: > I LIKE the contribution of linux distros, and I don't really want to > see a move towards the Windows world where I have 10 different > auto-updaters running (or worse - no auto-update and I'm just stuck > with manual checks). I also don't like every

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
since there's been no new feedback in a while, i'll add this to eutils.eclass in a while: usex() { use "$1" && echo "${2-yes}$4" || echo "${3-no}$5" ; } then once it hits the PMS, i'll put EAPI wrapping around it. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/21/11 20:40, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Thomas Kahle > wrote: >> Let's have a page in our docs where everybody can explain his or >> her tool. Where in the hierarchy should the page be? How >> about: http://www.g

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Thomas Kahle wrote: > Let's have a page in our docs where everybody can explain his or her > tool.  Where in the hierarchy should the page be?  How about: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/arch-testing Please! And the documentation should include examples of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Thomas Kahle wrote: > I agree that these new 'channel' concepts are not very compatible with > out stable/testing tree model and security stabilizations.  Every single > stabilization (except the first) of www-client/chromium for instance is > a security stabiliza

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:36:57 Thomas Kahle wrote: > On 09:10 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 12:10 Wed 21 Sep 2011, Rich Freeman wrote: > Maybe we need to rethink the definition of "stable" in these > situations. I think it still doesn't hurt to have some kind of QA > cycle internally for something like firefox. Plus at least with > firefox the old versions don't suddenly stop working

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:10:27 -0400 as excerpted: > Plus at least with firefox the old versions don't suddenly stop > working/etc, assuming they still get upstream security notices. That's the thing. AFAIK, they don't. FF4 is still getting them I believe, due to longer term

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 09:10 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > '$(use_enable static-libs static)' themselves. While a

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 14:20 Tue 20 Sep     , Brian Harring wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:16:46PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> > OK, so the implication of what you're saying is that everything in >> > eutils.eclass, base.eclass, toolchain-funcs.ecla

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi! On 20:42 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 09/19/11 20:30, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > I uploaded my script for finding reverse dependencies here: > > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/arch-tools.git;a=summary > > > > Advantages over existing solutions (browsing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 10:30 Mon 19 Sep 2011, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > I uploaded my script for finding reverse dependencies here: > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/arch-tools.git;a=summary app-portage/tatt does that for some time already. It reads the list from the tinderbox website and then uses

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Talking about...  Just today I was reading that the firefox folks are > debating shortening the current 6-week cycle to 5-weeks or less. Upstream issues are a whole different kettle of fish, but obviously still cause problems

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:46:38 -0400 as excerpted: > An issue your suggestion doesn't address is when packages don't even > stick around 30 days/etc. > > I know I've seen many packages where there is an ancient stable version > that is never touched, and a much newer ~arch versi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
2011/9/20 Tomáš Chvátal : > The issue here is that if some part of the tree looses lots of its > maintainers we as devs usually manage to shape it up enough for us in > testing but nobody ever bothers to wait that 30 days and open > stablereq. An issue your suggestion doesn't address is when packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Making backwards-incompatible tree changes | a solution for GLEP 55's problem

2011-09-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-09-2011 a las 04:00 +, Duncan escribió: > Patrick Lauer posted on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:00:38 +0200 as excerpted: > > > On 09/20/11 15:09, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > What do you guys think? > >> I haven't ever tried it but, what would occur if that people with > >> really updated sys

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-2: a bunch of patches to review

2011-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
Attaching fixed version of the last two patches, and a complete eclass for convenience. On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:32:52 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > 10 -- tries to migrate git.eclass clones to git-2.eclass (#383761). Fixed invalid output (PVR -> PF). > 11 -- removes old git.eclass clones to not

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:20 Tue 20 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:16:46PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > OK, so the implication of what you're saying is that everything in > > eutils.eclass, base.eclass, toolchain-funcs.eclass, > > flag-o-matic.eclass, versionator.eclass, multilib.ec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Corentin Chary
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/21/11 11:57, Corentin Chary wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz >> wrote: >>> On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep     , Corentin Chary wrote: Could someone write ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/21/11 11:57, Corentin Chary wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz > wrote: >> On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep , Corentin Chary wrote: >>> Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It >>> should not take a lot of time,

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-2: a bunch of patches to review

2011-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:46:10 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > 0001 - i had reason to put local definitions on the top, it is way > more readable to see right away what local vars function has, so > please stick to it. > 0007 - I placed it into the conditionals to be clear what is > happening, what if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep     , Corentin Chary wrote: >> Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not >> take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are probably not good >> enought to do that. > > Sounds like good practice