Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-06-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, William Hubbs wrote: > Please discuss. Did I leave out any steps? Are there any points I > have left out besides the time window between steps 2 and 3? Should > there be a time window before removing baselayout-1? What about > between steps 1 and 2? What do you consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-06-30 Thread Dale
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dale wrote: William Hubbs wrote: As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well reinstall anyway. That is usually the advice given on -user. After a year without updating, it is certainly easier and most

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-06-30 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dale wrote: > William Hubbs wrote: > As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well > reinstall anyway.  That is usually the advice given on -user.  After a year > without updating, it is certainly easier and most likely faster to > rein

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-06-30 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: All, the time has come when baselayout-2.x and openrc are stable on all of our architectures. That means that we should look into removing baselayout-1 from the tree, removing support for it from our init scripts and removing support for migration from the openrc ebuilds. 1

[gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-06-30 Thread William Hubbs
All, the time has come when baselayout-2.x and openrc are stable on all of our architectures. That means that we should look into removing baselayout-1 from the tree, removing support for it from our init scripts and removing support for migration from the openrc ebuilds. 1. we can remove baselay

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:30, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote: >> > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: >> >> > On

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:30:51PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400 > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > >> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Gór

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: > >> > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: optinal run time dependencies

2011-06-30 Thread Michał Górny
After some thinking, I'd like to re-state the USE_EXPAND variant as having the following advantages: 1) backwards compatible -- we can make the new feature optional for older EAPIs, making it useful for older ebuilds as well. If a PM doesn't support it, it will just treat them as ordinary USE; 2)

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: >> > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: >> > > Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > > > Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so > > > that the init scripts are optional and whether

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
On Thursday 30 of June 2011 20:54:21 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:40:26PM +0400, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > > I'm working on putting infiniband support to main tree. Currently > > infiniband related stuff hosted in science overlay in sys-infiniband > > [1] category (this categ

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:40:26PM +0400, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > I'm working on putting infiniband support to main tree. Currently infiniband > related stuff hosted in science overlay in sys-infiniband [1] category (this > category currently contains ~25 packages but they will be ~40) so i wann

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 15:13, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > On Thursday 30 of June 2011 14:47:06 Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:40, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >> > Also i'm going to add USE_EXPAND for infiniband userspace drivers: >> > libmlx4 >> > libmthca >> > libehca >> > libcxgb3 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
On Thursday 30 of June 2011 14:47:06 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:40, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > > Also i'm going to add USE_EXPAND for infiniband userspace drivers: > > libmlx4 > > libmthca > > libehca > > libcxgb3 use will be something like OPENIB_DRIVERS="mlx4 mthca ehca cxg

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:40, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > Also i'm going to add USE_EXPAND for infiniband userspace drivers: > libmlx4 > libmthca > libehca > libcxgb3 should it be based on the hardware family rather than the lib name ? > Any objections about moving this stuff to tree? i object to

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Hi all! I'm working on putting infiniband support to main tree. Currently infiniband related stuff hosted in science overlay in sys-infiniband [1] category (this category currently contains ~25 packages but they will be ~40) so i wanna move them as whole category. Also i'm going to add USE_EXPA

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Paul and everyone, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:04:04AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 08:58, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Why can't we just split up functions.sh into "/lib/output.sh" > > we're not changing the file name I just made a case on the bug for having a separate

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Jun 30, 2011 11:06 AM, "Mike Frysinger" wrote: > > we're not splitting the source trees. the reasons have already been > detailed in the bug open on the topic. > -mike > I think we're generally aiming for perfection when we should be pragmatic. The proposed solution isn't ideal, but is workab

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 08:58, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > Why can't we just split up functions.sh into "/lib/output.sh" we're not changing the file name > containing the init script independent (but often gentoo specific) > output stuff, and have functions.sh source this. Output.sh would be > provid

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On 30 June 2011 04:47, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > > > Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so that the > > > init scripts are optional and whether or not they