Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: an eclass for github snapshots?

2011-06-07 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 20:16 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Even if it fulfills the restrictions for global variables, it is still > an abuse of the spec, because PMS defines S as follows: > "The full path to the temporary build directory, used by src_compile, > src_install etc." I don't see how s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 19:41:20 Dale wrote: I have a question or two. I don't care if you, or others, reply to this with a answer, just think on it. A policy, rule if you will, has been decided on by the council. This after MUCH discussion on this list and the cou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:45:03 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:36:59 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:35:11 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > And yes, it should be automated. I agree. Doesn't change the > > > > current situation. > > > > > > of course it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: include dbus session handling in baselayout (or somewhere, in which case where?)

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 22:02:23 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:20:15 Leho Kraav wrote: > >> /etc/profile.d/dbus-session.sh attached, looking for feedback about > >> problems with it and if the whole approach eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 19:41:20 Dale wrote: > I have a question or two. I don't care if you, or others, reply to this > with a answer, just think on it. A policy, rule if you will, has been > decided on by the council. This after MUCH discussion on this list and > the council hearing both sid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: catalyst should use pbzip2 for stages

2011-06-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > isnt there a gentoo-release mailing list for catalyst and such ? > I presume this is so that users can extract stages using pbzip2 in parallel? Since pbzip2 can only parallel-extract bzip2 archives made with pbzip2? What's wrong with using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: include dbus session handling in baselayout (or somewhere, in which case where?)

2011-06-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:20:15 Leho Kraav wrote: >> /etc/profile.d/dbus-session.sh attached, looking for feedback about >> problems with it and if the whole approach even makes sense. I might be >> not knowing something important. > > i

[gentoo-dev] Council 2011 / 2012 election nomination

2011-06-07 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I nominate William Hubbs (williamh) - -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3ux2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Dale
Mike Frysinger wrote: seems we gauge things differently as i dont think it's that black& white, although it probably is further in your white than in my black. further, i dont believe people actually get useful information out of this, they just think they do (perception vs reality). when an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 18:08:17 Matt Turner wrote: > There _was_ a policy before, but it was unclear about documenting > version removals and arguably didn't require it, so after a few > developers (you've been often mentioned as one of them) refused to > document version removals in the changel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: include dbus session handling in baselayout (or somewhere, in which case where?)

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:20:15 Leho Kraav wrote: > This is something like net-misc/keychain is for key management. My main > use case so far is to do with gnome-keyring-daemon for Subversion. If > you want to have a password-locked keyring, you will have to unlock it > every time you have a n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:32:03 Matt Turner wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: >> >> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:32:03 Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: > >> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco > >> was this exact attitude. I don't like the current

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:36:59 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:35:11 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > And yes, it should be automated. I agree. Doesn't change the current > > > situation. > > > > of course it does. it makes the current situation irrelevant. > > Does this mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:35:11 -0400 > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > And yes, it should be automated. I agree. Doesn't change the current >> > situation. >> >> of course it does.  it makes the current situation irrelevant. > > Does this mean we s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:35:11 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > And yes, it should be automated. I agree. Doesn't change the current > > situation. > > of course it does. it makes the current situation irrelevant. Does this mean we should shortly be expecting to see you do the work to migrate the t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:23:23 Dane Smith wrote: > On 06/07/11 17:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: > >> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco > >> was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: >> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco >> was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either, it's >> far too wide. However, if you go back

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 06/07/2011 10:53 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Monday, May 16, 2011 09:41:08 Mark Loeser wrote: >>> "Mike Frysinger (vapier)" said: vapier      11/05/16 03:30:02   Removed:              bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild   Log:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Dane Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/11 17:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: >> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco >> was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either, it's >> far t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:14:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > On 06/07/11 15:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > waste of time. i simply wont bother removing old versions until > > > changelogs start being autogenerated or the policy is sane again. > > For the record, I support Dane's statement 10

Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog generation - pros and cons (council discussion request)

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, June 02, 2011 05:13:38 Fabian Groffen wrote: > Simple pros I see mentioned: additional pro: automatic culling of information no longer relevant. entries dating back to 2002 rarely are useful today. we could easily implement a cap via date, size, files still in the tree, # of entri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 06/07/2011 10:53 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday, May 16, 2011 09:41:08 Mark Loeser wrote: >> "Mike Frysinger (vapier)" said: >>> vapier 11/05/16 03:30:02 >>> >>> Removed: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild >>> Log: >>> old >> >> Please document removal of ebuilds in ChangeLogs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> On 06/07/11 15:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: (...) > > waste of time. i simply wont bother removing old versions until > > changelogs start being autogenerated or the policy is sane again. For the record, I support Dane's statement 100%. In addition, I would like to say that you're behaving pret

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: > To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco > was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either, it's > far too wide. However, if you go back and look at why it even *got* to > council, it was because y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Dane Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/11 15:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday, May 16, 2011 09:41:08 Mark Loeser wrote: >> "Mike Frysinger (vapier)" said: >>> vapier 11/05/16 03:30:02 >>> >>> Removed: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild >>> Log: >>> old >> >> Please

[gentoo-dev] Re: catalyst should use pbzip2 for stages

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
isnt there a gentoo-release mailing list for catalyst and such ? -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reducing glibc's default locale.gen

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 15:53:01 Matt Turner wrote: > No user has a need for more than some small subset of the total > available locales. the rub is in which locales the user cares about > I filed bug [1] to request the ability to select locales in catalyst > spec files, but no responses after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Crossdev / glib news item

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, May 15, 2011 14:24:16 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > I volunteered to help Diego summarize a news item on "crossdev, glib and > binary compatibility" i really dont think crossdev merits a news item considering its general support status and the likely hood of actual users who are affected

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, May 16, 2011 09:41:08 Mark Loeser wrote: > "Mike Frysinger (vapier)" said: > > vapier 11/05/16 03:30:02 > > > > Removed: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild > > Log: > > old > > Please document removal of ebuilds in ChangeLogs. waste of time. i simply wont bother removing

[gentoo-dev] Reducing glibc's default locale.gen

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
Hi, Building 400~ locales is not fun on mips when building stages. No user has a need for more than some small subset of the total available locales. I filed bug [1] to request the ability to select locales in catalyst spec files, but no responses after six months -- which is totally typical of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: an eclass for github snapshots?

2011-06-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> But it is not compliant with PMS: >> "If S is assigned in the global scope of an ebuild, then the >> restrictions of section 12.2 for global variables apply." (section 12.1) >> "Global variables must only contain invariant values." (section 12.2)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: an eclass for github snapshots?

2011-06-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:21 Mon 30 May , Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Mon, 30 May 2011, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > Il giorno lun, 30/05/2011 alle 08.27 +0200, Michał Górny ha scritto: > >> S="${WORKDIR}/solutious-${PN}-*" > >> > >> I'm surprised if that actually works. I'd say that seems not > >> PMS-comp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] Rendering the official Gentoo logo / Blender,2.04, Python 2.2

2011-06-07 Thread Mario Bodemann
Hi folks, Sebastian told me about the problem of not being able to render the logo in recent blender versions. So this is were I stepped in: I tried it and used the geometries from the old .blender file, and the yellowish reflecting image. Problem was to recreate the exact representation of the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of

2011-06-07 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 6/3/11 9:18 AM, dev-ran...@mail.ru wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:40:26AM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >> ... >> We can't have a tarball, most of the files from the package are >> non-redistributable. >> ... > > Then why do ebuilds contain line LICENSE="GPL-2"? Good catch. Well, the