[gentoo-dev] Re: Policy for conflicting USE flags

2011-02-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:04:11 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Maybe we also need a guideline that whenever possible, ebuilds should > accept the default USE flags from our profiles as a valid combination? > Or, in the exceptional case when that isn't possible, a package.use > entry should be added to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (text-based)

2011-02-09 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Joshua Saddler wrote: > On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:42:52 +0100 > "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >> Can anaconda give the user a shell at any point of the >> installation? Is it possible to manually skip the automated steps? > > Last I checked, Anaconda was designed for bi

[gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.13 news item?

2011-02-09 Thread Duncan
Francesco R posted on Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:32:36 +0100 as excerpted: > 2011/2/9 Ryan Hill > >> On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:52:55 +0100 >> "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >> >> > It seems that with glibc-2.13 there are some serious compatibility >> > issues. [H]ow about creating news item with detailed >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (text-based)

2011-02-09 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:42:52 +0100 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > Can anaconda give the user a shell at any point of the > installation? Is it possible to manually skip the automated steps? Last I checked, Anaconda was designed for binary installations, originally for RPM-based systems. Trying to s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Policy for conflicting USE flags

2011-02-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/08/2011 06:20 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > The guideline I usually follow is that flags depending on another flag being > set (eg. png needs X) should be ignored (you can always ewarn). For flags > that conflict with other flags (exactly one of many, if-this-not-this) use > REQUIRED_USE. Does tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (text-based)

2011-02-09 Thread likewhoa
talk to igli on freenode as he's the author of a Gentoo based installer named Gen2, perhaps he will be interested in this project. You can checkout current sources at git@213.131.245.114:gent2.git. I hope this won't be another GLI failed project but i have faith it won't. On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (text-based)

2011-02-09 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 2/9/11 10:33 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > What would be the main goals of this installer? > Could you elaborate a high level description of it? > As I said in the past, beside some annoying deps, anaconda already > works for Sabayon and working on a pure Gentoo module would be quite > easy. In c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (text-based)

2011-02-09 Thread Fabio Erculiani
What would be the main goals of this installer? Could you elaborate a high level description of it? As I said in the past, beside some annoying deps, anaconda already works for Sabayon and working on a pure Gentoo module would be quite easy. In change you get one of the most reliable graphical inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.13 news item?

2011-02-09 Thread Francesco R
2011/2/9 Michał Górny > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:32:36 +0100 > Francesco R wrote: > > > Since the upgrade I do get portage emerging text files .sh, .conf and > > such as file of the exact same size but filled of \0, luckily most > > upgrade fails. > > I've seen similar issue in bug #353907 [1] but

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 10:26:19AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > I have heard similar complaints about GLSAmaker. I half-wonder if it > would make more sense to just edit the xml files directly and validate > them with a tool, and send out an email, if the tool really is that > bad. a3li has been w

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (text-based)

2011-02-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
This is a post-FOSDEM call for people with interest for a Gentoo text-based installer. If you are a developer, or Gentoo user, and feel like spending some time on (possibly) creating a text-based installer for Gentoo in cooperation with others, please contact me (off-list). During FOSDEM, I've be

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:26 Wed 09 Feb , Rich Freeman wrote: > I have heard similar complaints about GLSAmaker. I half-wonder if it > would make more sense to just edit the xml files directly and validate > them with a tool, and send out an email, if the tool really is that > bad. If this is really the probl

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:08 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > I think http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/vulnerability-policy.xml > specifies the target delay, and also mentions temporary GLSAs. > Unfortunately, that process does not seem to be followed due to general > difficulty of drafting GLSAs

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-09 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 2/9/11 2:57 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Perhaps we should target having glsas published within a certain > amount of time after a vulnerability is disclosed, whether corrected > or not. We could re-publish a final notice once all is well. We > really shouldn't consider users safe from a security

Re: [gentoo-dev] GSLA improvements (WAS: avoiding urgent stabilisations)

2011-02-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 09-02-2011 08:57:25 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > Perhaps we should target having glsas published within a certain > amount of time after a vulnerability is disclosed, whether corrected > or not. We could re-publish a final notice once all is well. We > really shouldn't consider users safe from

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 08-02-2011 18:46:32 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> > Other than monitoring bugzilla, how does a Gentoo user even know that they >> > have a package pending a security update?  It seems like glsa's lag >> > stabilization by a consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.13 news item?

2011-02-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:32:36 +0100 Francesco R wrote: > Since the upgrade I do get portage emerging text files .sh, .conf and > such as file of the exact same size but filled of \0, luckily most > upgrade fails. I've seen similar issue in bug #353907 [1] but there they blame coreutils and/or btrf

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.13 news item?

2011-02-09 Thread Francesco R
2011/2/9 Ryan Hill > On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:52:55 +0100 > "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > > It seems that with glibc-2.13 there are some serious compatibility > > issues. There are good warnings on the planet > > (http://psykil.livejournal.com/340806.html), but not every ~arch user > > reads the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Policy for conflicting USE flags

2011-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Ryan Hill wrote: >> If we really implemented it in this way, then I fear that it would >> be difficult for users to find out what flag combinations they can >> use. > The guideline I usually follow is that flags depending on another > flag being set (eg. png needs X) sho