Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:57:33 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > #2 One point i don't agree is the "dont add -Werror" rule. actually, > > > i'm thinking of making -Wall and -Werror mandatory. if some > > > package doenst build fine, it's simply broken. period. > > > > Uhm. No. Certain compilers wi

[gentoo-dev] Re: FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/26/2010 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:57:33 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: Uhm. No. Certain compilers will give you warnings for f(g(a), g(b)) if you -Wall. Warn on what exactly ? That f's arguments are evaluated in an unspecified order. Which compilers do tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 21:46 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > BTW: if upstream has an proper VCS and an canonical tagging > scheme, they don't actually have to create release tarballs, > just hack up a little script which creates them on-the-fly > from an canonical URL scheme (eg. oss-qm does exactl

[gentoo-dev] Re: CAcert certificate distribution license to third parties (i.e. distributors like gentoo)

2010-06-26 Thread Daniel Black
On Sunday 13 December 2009 22:44:05 Daniel Black wrote: > Recently this got produced as a draft license for parties distributing > CAcert's root certificate(s) (like us). > > https://svn.cacert.org/CAcert/Policies/Agreements/3PVDisclaimerAndLicence.h > tml > > This is still in draft hasn't been d

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:46:39 +0200 > Enrico Weigelt wrote: >> BTW: if upstream has an proper VCS and an canonical tagging >> scheme, they don't actually have to create release tarballs, >> just hack up a little script which creates them on

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:09:09 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Well, with git this works. (I'll yet have to run some automatic > stress tests, but at all my manual tests worked really fine). You assume that, given the same input and program options, a compression program will always produce the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Krzysztof Pawlik schrieb: > > Down that path lies madness. There's no guarantee that you'll get the > > same tarball if you request the same URL twice in a row, particularly > > if you're using one of those new-fangled new compression schemes. > > I agree with Ciaran here, to add one more thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:46:39 +0200 > Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > BTW: if upstream has an proper VCS and an canonical tagging > > scheme, they don't actually have to create release tarballs, > > just hack up a little script which creates them on-the-fly > > from an cano

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:57:33 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Uhm. No. Certain compilers will give you warnings for f(g(a), g(b)) > > if you -Wall. > > Warn on what exactly ? That f's arguments are evaluated in an unspecified order. > Which compilers do that ? For all you know, gcc 4.7. New gc

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 06/26/10 20:59, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:46:39 +0200 > Enrico Weigelt wrote: >> BTW: if upstream has an proper VCS and an canonical tagging >> scheme, they don't actually have to create release tarballs, >> just hack up a little script which creates them on-the-fly >> fr

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:39:15 +0200 > Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > #2 One point i don't agree is the "dont add -Werror" rule. actually, > > i'm thinking of making -Wall and -Werror mandatory. if some > > package doenst build fine, it's simply broken. period. > > Uhm. No.

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:46:39 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > BTW: if upstream has an proper VCS and an canonical tagging > scheme, they don't actually have to create release tarballs, > just hack up a little script which creates them on-the-fly > from an canonical URL scheme (eg. oss-qm does exactl

[gentoo-dev] Re: FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/26/2010 10:39 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Petteri Räty schrieb: There should be useful stuff here: http://video.fosdem.org/2010/devrooms/distributions/How_to_be_a_good_upstream.ogv [...[ #2 One point i don't agree is the "dont add -Werror" rule. actually, i'm thinking of making -Wall a

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Krzysztof Pawlik schrieb: > > Hmm, this document suggests something, I just forgot to prohibit: > > > > "Release the source archives along with whatever binary archives you may > > have." > > ^ > > You intend to "prohibit" relea

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:39:15 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > #2 One point i don't agree is the "dont add -Werror" rule. actually, > i'm thinking of making -Wall and -Werror mandatory. if some > package doenst build fine, it's simply broken. period. Uhm. No. Certain compilers will give you warnings

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Petteri Räty schrieb: > There should be useful stuff here: > http://video.fosdem.org/2010/devrooms/distributions/How_to_be_a_good_upstream.ogv #1 he says nothing about that - if upstream has a VCS (and properly uses it ;-o) - the distros should use it, so eg. set their branches ontop the ups

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 06/26/10 19:51, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Krzysztof Pawlik schrieb: > >> Take a look at this page: >> http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java/wiki/How_to_be_a_good_upstream - it is >> Java >> specific mostly, but some general points can be reused :) > > Hmm, this document suggests something, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Alistair Bush schrieb: > Is this language specific? I'll try to separate it into generic and language specific rules step by step (same for various build systems, etc). > would you be interested in comments about java, ruby, python, > etc, etc, etc or are you only interested in good old C

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Krzysztof Pawlik schrieb: > Take a look at this page: > http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java/wiki/How_to_be_a_good_upstream - it is > Java > specific mostly, but some general points can be reused :) Hmm, this document suggests something, I just forgot to prohibit: "Release the source archive

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: xulrunner-bin

2010-06-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (26 Jun 2010) # Vulnerable and now unused xulrunner-bin, support was dropped from acroread. # # Masked for removal in 30 days, bug 324953. net-libs/xulrunner-bin Mask for source based xulrunner:1.8 soon to follow...

[gentoo-dev] QA last rites for app-i18n/adaptit

2010-06-26 Thread Diego E . Pettenò
# Diego E. Pettenò (26 Jun 2010) # on behalf of QA team # # Fails to build since at least June 2009 (bug #274332). No # activity since initial import in November 2008. # # Removal on 2010-08-25 app-i18n/adaptit

[gentoo-dev] QA last rites for dev-util/pbuilder

2010-06-26 Thread Diego E . Pettenò
# Diego E. Pettenò (26 Jun 2010) # on behalf of QA team # # Debian-related package; no maintainer; no ebuild activity # since 2005. Broken install phase as per bug #294975. # # Removal on 2010-08-25 dev-util/pbuilder

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite: www-client/kazehakase

2010-06-26 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:35:29AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > nothing usable left in tree. > > # Samuli Suominen (26 Jun 2010) > # Masked for QA > # > # Fails to compile with stable xulrunner, see bug 317275 > # Fails to compile with GTK+-2.20, see bug 325661 > # Ignores LDFLAGS, see bug 268

[gentoo-dev] lastrite: www-client/kazehakase

2010-06-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
nothing usable left in tree. # Samuli Suominen (26 Jun 2010) # Masked for QA # # Fails to compile with stable xulrunner, see bug 317275 # Fails to compile with GTK+-2.20, see bug 325661 # Ignores LDFLAGS, see bug 268491 # Current stable is using vulnerable xulrunner, see bug 324953 # # Removal i