Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 09:06 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Why not just get rid of the in-tree Changelogs entirely? The scm logs > already document this information, so why have it in a file? > > It seems like the main purpose for it is for end-users to have some idea > what changed in an ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 09:06:24AM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Why not just get rid of the in-tree Changelogs entirely? The scm > logs already document this information, so why have it in a file? The major concern with this is users that are NOT connected to the internet always. If you are con

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/06/2010 07:22 AM, James Cloos wrote: >> "ZM" == Zac Medico writes: > > ZM> You can configure eclass override behavior via eclass-overrides in > ZM> /etc/portage/repos.conf, as documented in `man portage`. > > ,< From that manpage > > | When using eclass-overrides, due to bug #27626

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/enchant: ChangeLog enchant-1.5.0.ebuild

2010-04-06 Thread Jonathan Callen
On 04/06/2010 12:26 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Le mardi 06 avril 2010 à 16:14 +, Jonathan Callen (abcd) a écrit : >> -src_unpack() { >> +src_prepare() { >> unpack ${A} >> cd "${S}" >> # Fix for upstream bug #12305 >> @@ -41,13 +41,12 @@ >> eautoreconf >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/enchant: ChangeLog enchant-1.5.0.ebuild

2010-04-06 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mardi 06 avril 2010 à 16:14 +, Jonathan Callen (abcd) a écrit : > -src_unpack() { > +src_prepare() { > unpack ${A} > cd "${S}" > # Fix for upstream bug #12305 > @@ -41,13 +41,12 @@ > eautoreconf > } Please remove stuff that has no place in prepare (unpack,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > But while I don't do IRC, from various hints I've seen here, that hasn't > necessarily been the case there.  I'm not making a judgement of whether > that's good or bad and am only going on various asides I've seen here > because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:25:27 -0400 James Cloos wrote: > Perl people -- I'm one -- use man(1); given the differences in > usefulness, I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer perldoc(1) > over man(1). I prefer perldoc over man. And I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer keeping two copies of th

[gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread Duncan
James Cloos posted on Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:27:36 -0400 as excerpted: >> "MH" == Michael Higgins writes: > > MH> Yep. Why have a man page for a perl module? OTOH, if there is > something MH> that goes in /usr/bin, it should get a man page if there > is one. But MH> not for the modules themselv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
> "MH" == Michael Higgins writes: MH> Yep. Why have a man page for a perl module? OTOH, if there is something MH> that goes in /usr/bin, it should get a man page if there is one. But MH> not for the modules themselves -- that's not needed at all. Because man(1) works better than the alternat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
> "TV" == Torsten Veller writes: TV> * James Cloos : >> One change the perl eclasses require is elimination of the code which >> deletes the man pages. >> >> Deleting the man pages is /extremely/ rude and should not occur. TV> There was a reason why the man-pages were removed: I think it wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
> "ZM" == Zac Medico writes: ZM> You can configure eclass override behavior via eclass-overrides in ZM> /etc/portage/repos.conf, as documented in `man portage`. ,< From that manpage > | When using eclass-overrides, due to bug #276264, you must ensure that | your portage tree does not con

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-06 Thread Duncan
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto posted on Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:16:52 + as excerpted: > However and > despite all the recent complaints about flames in the mailing lists, as > someone that has been following the mailing lists for a while, the > amount and level of flames has been substantially reduce

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-06 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 03:00:10PM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 6 April 2010 07:16, Stuart Longland wrote: > > How are you off for moderators?  I don't have a lot of time to sit > > around waiting for stuff to compile these days (which is why I've been > > very inactive on the MIPS and Mozilla

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/05/2010 10:13 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: * Proposed is to generate ChangeLogs from git commits on the rsync server side when metadata generation is done - Scripts to do this already exist[1] I haven't seen this discussed, so I'm going to toss this out there and duck: Why not just get

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-06 Thread Ben de Groot
On 6 April 2010 07:16, Stuart Longland wrote: > How are you off for moderators?  I don't have a lot of time to sit > around waiting for stuff to compile these days (which is why I've been > very inactive on the MIPS and Mozilla fronts) but I could look help out > with the moderation. It looks lik

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 06-04-2010 12:31:51 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 06-04-2010 07:43:02 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > >> * It makes zero sense to manually manage ChangeLogs in git[1] > >>   - Irritating conflicts while merging branches or remote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:47:17 +0200 Rémi Cardona wrote: > How about changing how users search instead? > > Let's make the small search box search for ALL bugs instead of just > opened ones. *That* should help tremendously. Adding additional bug types to search for by default - ok. Forcing search

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] Proposition for tags supported by git hooks

2010-04-06 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: >> >> Solutions: >> >> * Do not re-generate the existing ChangeLog; rather make the ChangeLog >> generation script smart enough to only append >>   - Solves the "messages not same" problem for existing commits > > I don't t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-06 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 06 of April 2010 07:47:17 Rémi Cardona wrote: > How about changing how users search instead? > > Let's make the small search box search for ALL bugs instead of just > opened ones. *That* should help tremendously. +1, maybe even enable it by default. That could reduce dupes imho. > Tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] Proposition for tags supported by git hooks

2010-04-06 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 06 of April 2010 04:13:02 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > One of the few remaining problems to be solved for the migration to > git for our gentoo-x86/ and gentoo/ trees (besides other > projects/overlays) is the problem of how to handle ChangeLogs. Great that you touched this topic. > =

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Pheonix] Heartbeat team force

2010-04-06 Thread Torsten Veller
* Sebastian Pipping : > - Package tree history (VCS logs, ..) > - get real numbers on how much active manpower we have I am generating monthly stats for gentoo-x86 for a year or so: http://dev.gentoo.org/~tove/stats/gentoo-x86/ It lists the number of commits per month (cvs-log-20...) for all "a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-06 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 06-04-2010 07:43:02 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> * It makes zero sense to manually manage ChangeLogs in git[1] >>   - Irritating conflicts while merging branches or remote master >>     + Similar argument for having only distfile man