[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Duncan
David Leverton posted on Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:04:33 + as excerpted: > On Tuesday 03 November 2009 15:48:03 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> To quote: >> "FEATURES is a portage specific package manager configuration variable >> not specified in PMS and cannot reliably be used in ebuilds or >> eclasses."

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Patrick Lauer wrote: > Calling EAPI is ... well ... I can't even think of a place to start to > explain > how wrong it is. How on earth are you going to parse an eclass that supports > multiple EAPIs where one EAPI were to support features of bash 4? > The only way to do it would be to force ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:04:58 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > > If you want to fix PMS, then send a patch > I tried, and as I've been saying for a long time they get rejected. Yes, let's look at the patches that you sent that were rejected: The first was one where you asked the PMS team to make a ch

[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:28:57 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > And then why bother when the tree doesn't reflect PMS. Maybe if some people would stop ignoring PMS on whim because they don't agree with something in it this wouldn't be the case. Like, when does this end? Whenever there's a policy you

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 22:26:24 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > To quote: > > "FEATURES is a portage specific package manager configuration > > variable not specified in PMS and cannot reliably be used in ebuilds > > or eclasses." > > For distcc & ccache, let me quote ebuild.sh code: > > if hasq d

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread David Leverton
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 15:48:03 Patrick Lauer wrote: > To quote: > "FEATURES is a portage specific package manager configuration variable not > specified in PMS and cannot reliably be used in ebuilds or eclasses." This has been the Portage team's position for years, since long before there w

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-03 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Samuli, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> ? ???, 16/10/2009 ? 23:09 +0300, Samuli Suominen ?: >>> # Samuli Suominen (16 Oct 2009) >>> # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427. >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days. >>> net-news/eventwatcher >>> kde-misc/kisdnwatch

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 18:27:46 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > a while ago Thilo Bangert spent quite some time on filing lots of bugs. > > While I appreciate such QA efforts I don't agree with those bugs at all. > > > > All of these bugs were for the use

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 21:58:27 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0100 > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > Userpriv I've seen the funny idea to check if UID=0 and such. > > Yes, and that 'funny idea' has the added advantage of working even if > userpriv is in FEATURES but not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Alexis Ballier
> To quote: > "FEATURES is a portage specific package manager configuration > variable not specified in PMS and cannot reliably be used in ebuilds > or eclasses." For distcc & ccache, let me quote ebuild.sh code: if hasq distcc $FEATURES ; then export PATH="/usr/lib/distcc/bin:$PATH"

[gentoo-dev] Bugzilla testers wanted - "Email send to: no one" issue

2009-11-03 Thread Christian Ruppert
Dear gentoo-dev subscriber, as some of you might have been noticed, we're having some trouble with Bugzilla's mail notification. In some cases you might see something like "Email sent to: no one" [1] where it was not supposed to happen. We're not able to reproduce this issue so we would be glad i

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-03 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Markos Chandras : > This is way I keep asking for a complete report of manpower at least > for amd64 and x86 arch teams ( and update the project pages as > well ). We need real numbers so we adjust respectively the number of > stabilization bugs we assign to them. x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:36:18 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > Userpriv I've seen the funny idea to check if UID=0 and such. Yes, and that 'funny idea' has the added advantage of working even if userpriv is in FEATURES but not actually enabled (yes, that can happen). > > > To quote: > > > "FEATURES i

[gentoo-dev] FEATURES use or misuse?

2009-11-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
Hi there, a while ago Thilo Bangert spent quite some time on filing lots of bugs. While I appreciate such QA efforts I don't agree with those bugs at all. All of these bugs were for the use of the FEATURES variable in ebuilds, which is a very convenient thing to work around issues. For example

[gentoo-dev] Kerberos maintainer wanted!

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Hammer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks! The kerberos herd in gentoo is pretty understaffed. That's the reason why I want to advertise this developer job to _YOU_! Kerberos in gentoo is nevertheless not in bad condition but there are some user requests and a lot of ideas to enhanc