On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0200
Petteri Räty wrote:
> James Cloos wrote:
> > When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live
> > ebuilds. Git- is the one I remember.
> >
> > Those should not get nuked during global cleanups, as they are likely to
> > be in active use no
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
>>> from the tree, for the week ending 2009-10-25 23h59 UTC.
>>>
>>> Removals:
>> [snip]
>>> x11-themes/gtk-engine
> "Petteri" == Petteri Räty writes:
Petteri> Their maintainers should be active and switch their ebuilds to
Petteri> EAPI 2. If they don't have an active maintainer, then do we
Petteri> want to keep live ebuilds for them around?
What possible benefit could be had from dropping ebuilds for n
On Sunday 25 October 2009 03:41:10 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> I fail to see how this is simpler and/or more versatile than simply using
> USE="kde gnome", USE="-kde gnome", USE="-gnome kde" or USE="-gnome -kde".
> What exactly are we going to gain by adding yet another level of complexity
> where two
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:34:55 Dawid Węgliński wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:38 Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> > But instead of just giving the user the answer, wouldn't it be more
> > appropriate, as far as understanding useflags and their uses goes, to
> > give users lists of useflags an
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:38 Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> But instead of just giving the user the answer, wouldn't it be more
> appropriate, as far as understanding useflags and their uses goes, to give
> users lists of useflags and what they do. Ie a list of base use flags for
> say, kde, and als
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:52:04 +0200, Alex Alexander
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 21:42, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>> having to choose a profile, gives less time for the wavering user
>
> Why all the fuss? No-one said we're removing the plain "desktop"
> profile, we're simply adding *more* options.
But instead of just giving the user the answer, wouldn't it be more
appropriate, as far as understanding useflags and their uses goes, to give
users lists of useflags and what they do. Ie a list of base use flags for
say, kde, and also what basic useflags to disable, and a suggestion to
rea
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:06:04 Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Le 24/10/2009 15:42, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit :
> > If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this
> > change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list.
>
> IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server su
When it all comes down, I just fail to see how the handbook doesn't
provide the pointers. I've always been about getting my system up and
running, and then learn whatever needs learning, this means that whilst I
didn't have more than a basic knowledge and understanding of useflags when
inst
Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a écrit :
Gentoo is about choice.
No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the ability
and tools to _change_ the distro to _their_ needs.
Gentoo does _not_ cater to all the possible needs.
This is somewhat off-topic, but it irks me ever
Duncan wrote:
Actually, yes. Gentoo has never been a hand-holding distribution. We
try to provide documentation and reasonable defaults for any apps the
user chooses to install, and let the user configure what they will.
Gentoo is about choice. Well, except for the choice to not have to
Ladislav Laska posted on Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:55:51 +0100 as excerpted:
> I have created mentioned file and run emerge, but I've got
>
> $ sudo emerge -av @critical
> !!! '@critical' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5)
> for full details
>
> And I have no idea why. Also, I'm u
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:06:09AM -0400, Kyle Cavin wrote:
> # @ECLASS: gdata-build.eclass
> # @BLURB: Eclass for gdata API ebuilds.
> # @DESCRIPTION:
> # This eclass contains various functions that are used when building gdata
> APIs.
>
> EAPI="2"
EAPI can be tested for in eclasses, but e
Maciej Mrozowski posted on Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:40:17 +0100 as excerpted:
> And I fail to see *any* point in forcing users to learn Gentoo internals
> (sic! like USE flags). What else? Ebuild syntax so that they're able to
> get to know what particular global USE flag is responsible for, when
> som
Maciej Mrozowski writes:
> And I fail to see *any* point in forcing users to learn Gentoo internals
> (sic!
> like USE flags). What else? Ebuild syntax so that they're able to get to know
> what particular global USE flag is responsible for, when someone forgot (or
> decided not to) describe i
Hi,
for those, who are lazy or not able to setup a system with multilib-portage, i
created a qemu/kvm
image, which is basicly a default amd64 autobuild tarball with added
multilib-portage and default
enabled 32bit libs for almost all packages.
You can find the image at your local mirror in the
On Monday 26 of October 2009 21:06:04 Rémi Cardona wrote:
> IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server subprofiles to begin with.
> I've always considered Gentoo to be an "opt-in" distro where after a
> successful install, you end up with a bash prompt and a _means_ of
> installing new packages.
Alex Alexander wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 21:42, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>
>> having to choose a profile, gives less time for the wavering user
>>
>
> Why all the fuss? No-one said we're removing the plain "desktop"
> profile, we're simply adding *more* options.
>
> If you want generic
Le 24/10/2009 15:42, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit :
If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this
change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list.
IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server subprofiles to begin with.
I've always considered Gentoo to be an "
On 2009-10-23 09:28, Torsten Veller wrote:
> An imprecise search (/make .*install$/) revealed another 200 packages:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~tove/files/makeinstallwithoutdie.txt
Fixed app-admin/tenshi.
--
Heath Caldwell - hncaldw...@gentoo.org
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Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 schrieb Samuli Suominen:
> # Samuli Suominen (25 Oct 2009)
> # Replaced by:
> #
> # >=media-gfx/digikam-0.10
> # kde-base/gwenview
> # >=media-gfx/kphotoalbum-4
> # >=media-plugins/kipi-plugins-0.6
> #
> # Masked for removal in 30 days.
> media-libs/libkdcraw
> =media-gf
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 21:42, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> having to choose a profile, gives less time for the wavering user
Why all the fuss? No-one said we're removing the plain "desktop"
profile, we're simply adding *more* options.
If you want generic DE options pre-enabled, choose the desktop pro
Having recently installed gentoo, I can see hwo it could get confusing
with DE specific profiles. Especially as a number of users that are new to
linux might very well have no idea what DE they're going to use. And the
same can be said for users who decided to run ubuntu "to try linux" and
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
>> from the tree, for the week ending 2009-10-25 23h59 UTC.
>>
>> Removals:
> [snip]
>> x11-themes/gtk-engines-kde4 2009-10-19 16
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:11:38 +0200
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> AllenJB wrote:
> > * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't
> > it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo
> > devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a
On Saturday 24 October 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking
> place 22 Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available
> soon), having Gentoo GNOME team representative, it's been decided to
> go ahead with splitting desktop pro
This is awesome! It really like the idea, but (there is always "but",
right?) it doesn't work.
I have googled for it for a while and haven't found any reference how
to do it exactly.
I have created mentioned file and run emerge, but I've got
$ sudo emerge -av @critical
!!! '@critical' is not a v
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> AllenJB wrote:
>> * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't
>> it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo
>> devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a little
>> sanity preservation for the re
On Wednesday 21 October 2009 07:34:18 Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 October 2009 09:06:29 Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
> >> As I'm building the toolchain myself too, I configure it with the
> >> 32bit host triplet on each platform, usually disabling multilib
On Thursday 22 October 2009 11:26:58 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Mike Frysinger schrieb:
> > On Sunday 18 October 2009 14:46:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> Mike Frysinger schrieb:
> >>> how do you control whether the multilib headers are needed ? it'll
> >>> probably make sense in general, but there are
AllenJB wrote:
> * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't
> it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo
> devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a little
> sanity preservation for the rest of us?
It's not only for
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22
> Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo
> GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting
> desktop profile to DE-
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
> from the tree, for the week ending 2009-10-25 23h59 UTC.
>
> Removals:
[snip]
> x11-themes/gtk-engines-kde4 2009-10-19 16:48:05 ssuominen
[snip]
> Add
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