Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 06/09/2009 02:34, Thomas Anderson a écrit : Ciaran's really not making homework up for gentoo. Why, remi stated himself that we have homework to do(and we sometimes don't do that homework) I did, but I also stated upstream might have some homework to do themselves. Here's a list of things t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:03:25PM +0200, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Friday 04 of September 2009 22:08:02 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:04:46 +0200 > > > R?mi Cardona wrote: > > > Having tools to manipulate those variables is very misleading since > > > users will (rightfull

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Ulrich Mueller wrote: > IMHO the main disadvantage is that ebuilds would have to be converted > to EAPI-4 for this, Why do they _have_ to? I understand that it's optional and that we can take time with it until a new license (e.g. GPL-4) arrives. Also, scripts/tools can help with the transition.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Zac Medico
Mounir Lamouri wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: >> Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> >>> I propose support for license groups in ebuilds then, I guess. >>> >> That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do >> something like LICENSE="@GPL-2+" and that will expand to whatever >> the definiti

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 05 Sep 2009, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > I suppose adding group license support in ebuilds will fix the problem > too. But I see a few disadvantages like: > - new behavior for @ operator: it will not only expand a group but also > adding a || operator (only for LICENSE) > - devs will h

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Zac Medico wrote: > Sebastian Pipping wrote: > >> I propose support for license groups in ebuilds then, I guess. >> > That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do > something like LICENSE="@GPL-2+" and that will expand to whatever > the definition of the GPL-2+ license group

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:03:25 +0200 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > Why not use EAPI 4 to make sure people have done that homework then? > > Because it won't make *upstream* do their homework. If upstream won't tell you the licence under which something is distributed, how does Gentoo know whether it'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 04 of September 2009 22:08:02 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:04:46 +0200 > Rémi Cardona wrote: > > Having tools to manipulate those variables is very misleading since > > users will (rightfully) assume that we've done our homework and that > > upstream did too. > Why n

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Zac Medico
Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009, Zac Medico wrote: >>> I propose support for license groups in ebuilds then, I guess. > >> That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do >> something like LICENSE="@GPL-2+" and that will expand to whatever >> the definition of the GPL-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: www-plugins/gnash

2009-09-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 05/09/2009 11:25, Duncan a écrit : [...] This is off-topic for gentoo-dev. Please continue this discussion in private. Thanks Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009, Zac Medico wrote: >> I propose support for license groups in ebuilds then, I guess. > That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do > something like LICENSE="@GPL-2+" and that will expand to whatever > the definition of the GPL-2+ license group happens to b

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: www-plugins/gnash

2009-09-05 Thread Duncan
Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:19:12 +0300 as excerpted: > On 09/05/2009 01:24 AM, Robert Bradbury wrote: >> >> Is gnash still under development (as an open source alternative to >> Adobe flash)? TTBOMK [1], gnash is now a GNU sponsored project, one I believe they are actually p

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:06:09 -0700 as excerpted: > That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do something > like LICENSE="@GPL-2+" and that will expand to whatever the definition > of the GPL-2+ license group happens to be. When a new version of GPL > license comes