[gentoo-dev] Manifesto archive

2009-07-02 Thread Torsten Veller
* "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" : > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council/2009/council-200906-nominees.xml Please archive the manifestos somewhere under the project space like it was done the last years. Looking back at the 2005 list of nominees, all external links are dead. Only the arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
I'm forwarding Roy's email to the dev-announce ml for reaching the wider community and for future reference. Roy Bamford wrote: > All, > > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > composed of:- > > Ned Ludd (solar) > Petteri Räty (betelgeuse) >

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Duncan
"Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" posted 4a4d97d5.10...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:32:05 +: > I have a few ideas about this that I'll have to put in writing and share > later, but let me start by proposing that for such a change we require > the support of at least 2/3 of

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Duncan
Tobias Scherbaum posted 1246546445.6186.33.ca...@homer.ob.libexec.de, excerpted below, on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:54:05 +0200: > Ned Ludd wrote: >> I'd like to see the dev body have a year-round voice in the council. >> Either via quick votes year-round on topics or simply by having >> discussion in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: >>> What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to >>> modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution >>> somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council >>> did decide the council itsel

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-news r11 - in 2009: . 07 07/2009-07-02-kdeprefix+monolithics

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, "Theo Chatzimichos (tampakrap)" : > +[0] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml > \ No newline at end of file You should configure your editor correctly. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
commited, thank you all for the suggestions and the translations. I'll have to ask again though, is it possible to have it in the main site as well? in fact, who is in charge for the main site? gdp maybe? On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:50:29 Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:27

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 22:14 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > in general you speak about the council but do you have any concrete > plans/goals you want to achieve? I think we are in the information gathering phase right now on how to best proceed. So nothing concrete as of this point.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Exim and Sendmail need a maintainer

2009-07-02 Thread AllenJB
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 24-06-2009 13:51:37 +, Torsten Veller wrote: | mail-mta/exim. I'm looking for users that want to help maintaining Exim. Especially if you feel like becoming a Gentoo developer at some time, contact me directly. I recommend you post this to planet, the forums, ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:29:39 +0200 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Which groups who would like to be able to contribute currently feel > > that they can't, why do they feel that and why haven't they said so? > > For example people from the other package managers apart from > Paludis. Zac's said

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ciaran McCreesh : > On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0200 > Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > > Another one of the things I'd like to see and help reform with the > > > council. First off it spends way too much time on EAPI/PMS. There > > > is no reason to make the council an extension of the port

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0200 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Another one of the things I'd like to see and help reform with the > > council. First off it spends way too much time on EAPI/PMS. There is > > no reason to make the council an extension of the portage team. > > As member of the P

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, in general you speak about the council but do you have any concrete plans/goals you want to achieve? Ned Ludd : > The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. Nor did I, especially because you were quite low on my ballot. Congratulations. > The devs have a voice o

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 13:47:45 Michael Higgins wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0700 Ned Ludd wrote: > > My only intention was to help offset > > dev-zero being able force the will of outside forces upon us. > > Well that has been accomplished for now (w00t). > > What is this all about? Di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Exim and Sendmail need a maintainer

2009-07-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 24-06-2009 13:51:37 +, Torsten Veller wrote: > | mail-mta/exim. I'm looking for users that want to help maintaining Exim. Especially if you feel like becoming a Gentoo developer at some time, contact me directly. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Higgins
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0700 Ned Ludd wrote: > My only intention was to help offset > dev-zero being able force the will of outside forces upon us. > Well that has been accomplished for now (w00t). What is this all about? Did I miss something? Was Gentoo threatened with takeover? Cheers

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'll have things to say about this but I'm still in the woods with dialup until monday. So either I can get close to a fatter pipe later today or tomorrow, or I'll do it on monday night from home. Denis.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 10:54:05 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. > > But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you > > voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:02:45 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > here's an item that should be relatively quick to address: fix the typo > > in GLEP 39 where this line is missing (it's been in the council homepage > > forever): > > Only Gentoo developers may be nominated >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Torsten Veller
* Roy Bamford : > The full ranked list of candidates, in order, is:- > > solar > betelgeuse > calchan > dertobi123 > ulm > leio > lu_zero > patrick > dev-zero > ssuominen > scarabeus > gentoofan23 > peper > _reopen_nominations Can you please publish the full ranking output?

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Ned Ludd a écrit : [snip, lots of insightful stuff I either agree with or don't really understand] So lets have some damn fun again !...@#$ _That_ I whole heartedly agree with. Please, all of you in the new council, try to keep this in mind :) Thanks Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Mike Frysinger wrote: > here's an item that should be relatively quick to address: fix the typo in > GLEP 39 where this line is missing (it's been in the council homepage > forever): > Only Gentoo developers may be nominated I'd like to add that requirement for proxies as well. Varied inte

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Alec Warner wrote: > > What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to > > modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution > > somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council > > did decide the council itself can change it's rules):

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: >> The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. >> But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you >> voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than be >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Ned Ludd wrote: > The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. > But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you > voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than be > really vocal in what seems like a never ending battle. That ne

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ferris McCormick
There's a lot of good stuff to think about here. For what it's worth, some initial comments. On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 19:33 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: > The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. > Why would you vote for somebody who did not even publish a manifesto? > I don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Freeman
Doug Goldstein wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ned Ludd wrote: Meetings will likely go back to one time per month and be +m with +v be handed out per request with open chat pre/post meetings. The reason for this is to keep the meetings on-track. I won't engage in endless discussions. Fac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:27:34 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hallo, > > Theo Chatzimichos : > > If there are no further objections, and if I have the OK from Jorge > > i'll commit the following tonight > > Fine by me. > > > Also, you can send me translations > > So you will provide Greek I ass

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hallo, Theo Chatzimichos : > If there are no further objections, and if I have the OK from Jorge > i'll commit the following tonight Fine by me. > Also, you can send me translations So you will provide Greek I assume. Here comes German. > Title: kdeprefix and monolithic ebuilds issues P

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
If there are no further objections, and if I have the OK from Jorge i'll commit the following tonight (name: 2009-07-02-kdeprefix+monolithics.en.txt). Btw is it possible the following message to be uploaded in gentoo.org main site as well? Also, you can send me translations, see http://www.gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 01-07-2009 22:00:23 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > composed of:- > > Ned Ludd (solar) > Petteri Räty (betelgeuse) > Denis Dupeyron(calchan) > Tobias Scherbaum (dertobi123) > Ulrich Müll