On Thursday 28 May 2009 01:10:50 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> >>
> >> How is it one-way exactly? You can do pretty much anything you want in
> >> a new EAPI (that's the point).
> >
> > You cannot undo it.
> >
> > In other words, you'll have to allow stupid filenames until the end of
> > times even i
This is becoming a rather lengthy email ping pong, but as people seem to be
unable to discuss things I had to highlight a few issues there.
Short version:
- Try to avoid subjective statements. Statements like "C++ feels better" don't
add anything to the discussion and are objectively wrong for
Am Mittwoch, den 27.05.2009, 22:43 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
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> On 2009.05.27 21:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
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> > On Wed, 27 May 2009 20:55:33 +0100
> > Roy Bamford wrote:
> > > That means
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:54:40 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > None needed, seems to be the major voice.
>
> So it's your opinion that Gentoo should go with an in every way
> inferior solution that doesn't solve the problem as well?
I was merely overstating the obvious.
jer
On Thu, 28 May 2009 01:48:34 +0200
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
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> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:26:25 + (UTC)
> > Mark Bateman wrote:
> > > NOT once within GLEP55 [...]
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> > Not once has there been an equally good alternative proposed.
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>
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:45:18 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:26:25 + (UTC)
> Mark Bateman wrote:
> > NOT once within GLEP55 [...]
> Not once has there been an equally good alternative proposed.
None needed, seems to be the major voice.
jer
On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:26:25 + (UTC)
Mark Bateman wrote:
> NOT once within GLEP55 or in all the ml posts over all the *MONTHS*
> has there been unequivocal proof that encoding metadata into the
> filename of an ebuild is a necessity, so please stop playing that
> tune it is getting boring
Not
Ciaran McCreesh googlemail.com> writes:
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> On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:43:21 +0100
> Roy Bamford gentoo.org> wrote:
> > You chose to ignore "Adding metadata to the filename is not required
> > and is bad system design practice."
> >
> > I assum
2009/5/28 Patrick Lauer :
> On Thursday 28 May 2009 00:12:56 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
>> 2009/5/27 Patrick Lauer :
>> > On Wednesday 27 May 2009 22:57:25 Joe Peterson wrote:
>> >> > Gentoo should not repeat the VHS vs Betamax war. For those who do not
>> >> > remember, VHS was the better marketed b
If you need python compiled with certain use flags, there's now better
support for checking those in the python eclass. The variables are:
PYTHON_USE_WITH
PYTHON_USE_WITH_OR
PYTHON_USE_WITH_OPT
For details on usage re-emerge eclass-manpages and see man python.eclass.
Regards,
Petteri
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Petteri Räty wrote:
> I wrote support to the python eclass to make sure python version used to
> install has support for needed use flags. With current EAPIs I can't
> think of a way to do this without a pkg_setup check but feel free to
> surprise me.
>
> Regards,
> Petteri
>
No comments so comm
On Thursday 28 May 2009 00:12:56 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> 2009/5/27 Patrick Lauer :
> > On Wednesday 27 May 2009 22:57:25 Joe Peterson wrote:
> >> > Gentoo should not repeat the VHS vs Betamax war. For those who do not
> >> > remember, VHS was the better marketed but inferior technical solution
>
2009/5/27 Patrick Lauer :
> On Wednesday 27 May 2009 22:57:25 Joe Peterson wrote:
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>> > Gentoo should not repeat the VHS vs Betamax war. For those who do not
>> > remember, VHS was the better marketed but inferior technical solution
>> > that won the standards war for domestic Video recorders.
>>
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 22:57:25 Joe Peterson wrote:
> > Gentoo should not repeat the VHS vs Betamax war. For those who do not
> > remember, VHS was the better marketed but inferior technical solution
> > that won the standards war for domestic Video recorders.
> >
> :) Yep. And bad design deci
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On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:43:21 +0100
Roy Bamford wrote:
> You chose to ignore "Adding metadata to the filename is not required
> and is bad system design practice."
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> I assume you agree with that as you chose to snip it, not to refute
> it with a te
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On 2009.05.27 21:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
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> On Wed, 27 May 2009 20:55:33 +0100
> Roy Bamford wrote:
> > That means the EAPI needs to be extracted before the ebuild is
> > sourced, which from the f
Roy Bamford wrote:
> GLEP 55 still confuses the problem and the solution.
> Adding metadata to the filename is not required and is bad system
> design practice. Its also the first step on the slippery slope to
> adding more metadata in the future.
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> Changing the .ebuild extension, to blind e
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On Wed, 27 May 2009 20:55:33 +0100
Roy Bamford wrote:
> That means the EAPI needs to be extracted before the ebuild is
> sourced, which from the figures bandied about on the list may take
> marginaly longer but its a price worth paying for a sound sys
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On 2009.05.27 13:46, Ferris McCormick wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 20:57 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote:
> > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd &
> 4th
> > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-
> cou
> On Wed, 27 May 2009, Ferris McCormick wrote:
> I note that the .eapi-${EAPI} part could well be optional, in which
> case GLEP54 falls naturally into the new scheme as something like
> ${PN}-${PVR}-scm.eb
Sorry, but this is not what GLEP 54 proposes.
GLEP 54 proposes to make "-scm" part of
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 20:57 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote:
> This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th
> Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
> irc.freenode.net) !
>
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vot
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