[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: app-doc/afsdoc (Jun 1 2009)

2009-05-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 20 May 2009 19:44:27 +0300 Petteri Räty wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > Masked this a couple weeks ago but forgot to announce it: > > > > - old old old docs for the AFS file system, which get installed with > > net-fs/openafs USE=doc anyways > > - not touched since 2005 > > - unmaintained

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 19:12, Petteri Räty wrote: > Jesús Guerrero wrote: > >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 18:43, Petteri Räty wrote: >> >>> Jesús Guerrero wrote: >>> >>> Hello, This is a request for comments on a new project, namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 22:58, AllenJB wrote: > Jesús Guerrero wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> This is a request for comments on a new project, >> namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ >> >> >> The web page doesn't really explain all the background >> needed to unde

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dale schrieb: > As for people knowing about Gentoo and the forums, go to google and type > in Gentoo. First hit, Gentoo home page. Even includes links to the > docs and other pages that are handy. Allow me a short remark: Enter "gentoo forum" - and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread AllenJB
Jesús Guerrero wrote: Hello, This is a request for comments on a new project, namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ The web page doesn't really explain all the background needed to understand why would anyone want to start such a project. However this forum thr

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 22:26, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Alistair Bush wrote: >> >>> Dale wrote: >>> >>> >>> > The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one > place. > > That would be the point.  Gentoo has its ow

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.20 12:26, Dale wrote: [snip] > > But does Gentoo support those forums? My point is, the people here, > devs in particular, have enough to do already. Why add one more > thing > for them to deal with? > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Dale, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dale wrote: > Alistair Bush wrote: >> Dale wrote: >> >> The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one place. >>> That would be the point.  Gentoo has its own forum so why have two >>> forums?  What would be the point in having two

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Dale
Alistair Bush wrote: > Dale wrote: > > >>> The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one place. >>> >>> >> That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two >> forums? What would be the point in having two places to go look for >> answers? Better yet,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 21:18, Josh Saddler wrote: > However, for the purposes of an actual project, I believe it's > considered essential that we own the infrastructure that project is hosted > on. All of our other projects (to my knowledge) are hosted on our own > infrastructure. > > If we cannot p

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Josh Saddler wrote: >> Jeremy Olexa wrote: >>> I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988 >>> (http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either >>> stabilization or news posting. The doc is s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Josh Saddler wrote: > Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988 >> (http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either >> stabilization or news posting. The doc is somewhat out of date now. > > I assume you mean the baselayou

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Alistair Bush
Dale wrote: >> The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one place. >> > > That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two > forums? What would be the point in having two places to go look for > answers? Better yet, why would Gentoo support both forums? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > Hello, > > This is a request for comments on a new project, > namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ > > The web page doesn't really explain all the background > needed to understand why would anyone want to start such > a project. Howe

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: > I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988 > (http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either > stabilization or news posting. The doc is somewhat out of date now. I assume you mean the baselayout-2/openrc migration guide? Not as far as we know. And what w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI="3" ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 20 May 2009 19:12:56 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > This error occurs only when there is no up-to-date cache for given > ebuild. rsync users would see only the usual "masked by: EAPI 3" > message. We always have to assume that there might not be an up to date cache. Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI="3" ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-20 19:29:12 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): > 2009/5/20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : > > 2009-05-17 19:02:02 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): > >> 2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : > >> > 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): > >> >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Philip Webb
090520 Petteri Räty wrote: >> A lot has changed from Baselayout version 1.x to 2.0.0, so all users >> should take a look at the upgrade guide found at >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml >> to not break their systems. You will likely see an update of >> sys-apps/baselayout in t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI="3" ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/5/20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : > 2009-05-17 19:02:02 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): >> 2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : >> > 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): >> >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 >> >> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 18:43, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Jesús Guerrero wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> This is a request for comments on a new project, >>> namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". >>> >>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ >>> >>> >> New projects must be announced

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI="3" ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-17 19:02:02 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): > 2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : > > 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): > >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 > >> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > >> > I would like to suggest to include possibility of u

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > there is no set date, but I want to post a GLEP 42 news item before the > actual stabilisation.  Maybe other channels like the web page can carry > that news then, too.  Please comment the attached news item. >  Vapier wanted

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 18:43, Petteri Räty wrote: > Jesús Guerrero wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> This is a request for comments on a new project, >> namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ >> >> > > New projects must be announced via gentoo-dev-announce and I hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
> A lot has changed from Baselayout version 1.x to 2.0.0, so all users > should take a look at the upgrade guide found at > >http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml > > to not break their systems. You will likely see an update of > sys-apps/baselayout in the near future: After

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > there is no set date, but I want to post a GLEP 42 news item before the > actual stabilisation. Maybe other channels like the web page can carry > that news then, too. Please comment the attached news item. > Vapier wanted to know, if it is possible that th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-doc/afsdoc (Jun 1 2009)

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill wrote: > Masked this a couple weeks ago but forgot to announce it: > > - old old old docs for the AFS file system, which get installed with > net-fs/openafs USE=doc anyways > - not touched since 2005 > - unmaintained > > Was this posted to -dev-announce as I see nothing there? Regard

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > Hello, > > This is a request for comments on a new project, > namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere". > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ > New projects must be announced via gentoo-dev-announce and I haven't see a mail although project pages exist. Also I don't see how t

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Jesús Guerrero : > I really don't care if this is a top level project or a subproject. > So, what do people think about this? It is a good idea to reach out to our users. So yes. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeN

[gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, there is no set date, but I want to post a GLEP 42 news item before the actual stabilisation. Maybe other channels like the web page can carry that news then, too. Please comment the attached news item. Vapier wanted to know, if it is possible that the news item is displayed user has (a) Ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-20 Thread Richard Freeman
Mart Raudsepp wrote: The maintainer-wanted team owns that foo package then, which is why having a different mail alias than the existing one for "new package requests that aren't in gentoo tree yet" would be a good idea. Ok, I think I see where you're coming from. Essentially maintainer-wan

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 14:44, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > >> Comments welcome, and thanks for reading. >> > > (replying to random) > > > Look, there has been a whopping 6 developer comments on this thread - > none of them opposed. This means to me that you should continue on with > your plan. You are alre

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Comments welcome, and thanks for reading. (replying to random) Look, there has been a whopping 6 developer comments on this thread - none of them opposed. This means to me that you should continue on with your plan. You are already a moderator of our forums, so get someone with cvs access

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 13:26, Dale wrote: > > But does Gentoo support those forums? My point is, the people here, > devs in particular, have enough to do already. Why add one more thing for > them to deal with? Devs don't have to bother or even know about this at all. The support will be limited

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 14:24:11 Dale wrote: > Since I am seeing this from a user perspective, my opinion stands. I'm > not against them having a forum where ever people choose, I just don't > think Gentoo and devs should be required to support it. They have > enough to deal with now. > I ve alw

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Dale
Jesús Guerrero wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 05:33, Dale wrote: > >> Jesús Guerrero wrote: >> >> I don't see how doing double the work will benefit anyone. Its a lot >> easier to have one forum than it is to have two forums. I just think the >> Gentoo folks would be better to concentrate on wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Dale
Nandeep Mali wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Dale wrote: > [...] > >> I'm a member at LQ tho I haven't been there in a long while. I just >> don't see why there has to be two forums when the one forum we have is >> more than enough. If someone can't find the Gentoo forums, I'm not s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Nandeep Mali
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Dale wrote: [...] > I'm a member at LQ tho I haven't been there in a long while. I just > don't see why there has to be two forums when the one forum we have is > more than enough. If someone can't find the Gentoo forums, I'm not sure > they can find the chair an

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 05:33, Dale wrote: > Jesús Guerrero wrote: > > I don't see how doing double the work will benefit anyone. Its a lot > easier to have one forum than it is to have two forums. I just think the > Gentoo folks would be better to concentrate on what we have than to > be spreading

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 06:23, Dale wrote: > > I still get this: > > > "The topic or post you requested does not exist". I am logged in. An administrator moved it back while I was asleep. I shouldn't have moved anything outside the mod forum without asking first. However all the reasoning has alr

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 02:18, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 01:10 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: > >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 00:37, Dale wrote: >> >>> That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two >>> forums? What would be the point in having two places to go look fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Wed, May 20, 2009 01:18, Duncan wrote: > "Robin H. Johnson" posted > robbat2.20090519t230236.2687450...@orbis-terrarum.net, excerpted below, on > Tue, 19 May 2009 16:03:29 -0700: > > >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:00:34AM +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-