Re: [gentoo-dev] Devaway for me, for a whole year period(military service)

2009-02-08 Thread Dale
Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: > Hi fellow devs and users, > > As some of you may already know, I won't be around this year, > cause I have to join the greek army, starting from tomorrow > morning. Feel free to touch my ebuilds. I will be in contact (via mail) > with Marijn Schouten (hkBst) in c

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-02-08 23h59 UTC

2009-02-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-02-08 23h59 UTC. Removals: sys-kernel/hppa-sources 2009-02-06 03:14:44 jer profiles/default-linux/hppa 2009-02-06 05:40:23 jer net-p2p/azureus 2009-02-

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:27:54 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: >>> Which is offset and more by the massive inconvenience of having to >>> keep track of and store junk under version control. >> I think you're making it out to be worse

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:27:54 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > > Which is offset and more by the massive inconvenience of having to > > keep track of and store junk under version control. > > I think you're making it out to be worse than it really is. Like I > said, I think we have a justifiable exceptio

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:03:48 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: >>> No, it's just encouraging bad development practices. >> It seems like you're making a rather arbitrary judgment. > > Not storing generated content under revision cont

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:03:48 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > > No, it's just encouraging bad development practices. > > It seems like you're making a rather arbitrary judgment. Not storing generated content under revision control is hardly an arbitrary judgement. It's a well accepted software developm

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:43:01 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: >>> Sticking metadata cache files under version control really is a >>> perfect example of doing it wrong... >> Well, if you want to use timestamps, the alternative is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:43:01 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > > Sticking metadata cache files under version control really is a > > perfect example of doing it wrong... > > Well, if you want to use timestamps, the alternative is to > distributors to use a protocol which preserves timestamps. This > crea

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:23:18 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: >>> Well, usually you don't keep intermediate or generated files in a >>> VCS, so why the metadata? >> People who distribute overlays commonly ask if it's possible to >> d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Hill wrote: > > I've always thought it would be cool to have user-created tag > clouds, del.icio.us-style, on packages.g.o. I expect this would be > a hell of a lot of work to set up however. initially, packages could be automatically tagges, ba

[gentoo-dev] Re: Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:07:58 + Angelo Arrifano wrote: > I would keep existing categories and add a new TAG metadata to > existing ebuilds. Something like TAG="kde music player lyrics lastfm > visualization" for amarok, as example. > > A public list of *ALLOWED* tags would be published on our

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:23:18 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > > Well, usually you don't keep intermediate or generated files in a > > VCS, so why the metadata? > > People who distribute overlays commonly ask if it's possible to > distribute metadata cache with the overlay. Using a format that > doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 12:36 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Tiziano Müller wrote: >>> But if your target is to reduce the size of the metadata cache, why >>> store the ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2009-02-08 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi, shame on me, here i'm wondering why noone replies... Sorry, i failed to send the updated patch o.O Here's the patch again w/ your suggestions included. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) --- /usr/portage/eclass/fox.eclass 2008-10-12 14:36:35.0

[gentoo-dev] Devaway for me, for a whole year period(military service)

2009-02-08 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
Hi fellow devs and users, As some of you may already know, I won't be around this year, cause I have to join the greek army, starting from tomorrow morning. Feel free to touch my ebuilds. I will be in contact (via mail) with Marijn Schouten (hkBst) in case you want to hear any news of me. Keep u

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 12:36 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 00:59 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Tiziano Müller wrote: > >>> Am S

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcement of The G Palmtop Environment ebuilds

2009-02-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Angelo Arrifano wrote: > > [ -z "${GPE_MIRROR}" ] && > GPE_MIRROR="http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/download/source"; > [ -z "${GPE_TARBALL_SUFFIX}" ] && GPE_TARBALL_SUFFIX="gz" > SRC_URI="${GPE_MIRROR}/${P}.tar.${GPE_TARBALL_SUFFIX}" > Use [[ here. > > # @FUNCTION: gpe_src_compile > # @DESCRIPTION:

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 00:59 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Tiziano Müller wrote: >>> Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 15:23 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: -BEGIN PGP SIGN

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 08/02/2009 20:07, Angelo Arrifano a écrit : I would keep existing categories and add a new TAG metadata to existing ebuilds. Something like TAG="kde music player lyrics lastfm visualization" for amarok, as example. If anything, this sort of extra information should go to metadata.xml. Cheer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Angelo Arrifano
I would keep existing categories and add a new TAG metadata to existing ebuilds. Something like TAG="kde music player lyrics lastfm visualization" for amarok, as example. A public list of *ALLOWED* tags would be published on our www infrastructures. Then during the portage metadata regeneration p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 18:59 +0100 schrieb Federico Ferri: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > ${PORTDIR}/tags/games/puzzles/ksudoku -> ../../../kde-base/ksudoku > > ${PORTDIR}/tags/games/puzzles/sudoku/ksudoku -> > ../../../../kde-base/ksudoku >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 23:41 +0530 schrieb Nirbheek Chauhan: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan > wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Federico Ferri > > wrote: > >> tags <-> packages is a many-to-many relation. > > > > Aren't tags _made_ to be many-to-many? > > ie,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> I like the tag idea. I don't like tag as described above. I feel >> having tags organized in hierarchical way is inappropriate. that >> just makes another organization of packages in categories. > > KDE and OLPC are looking t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Federico Ferri wrote: >> tags <-> packages is a many-to-many relation. > > Aren't tags _made_ to be many-to-many? ie, symlinking can allow that kind of relationship -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Federico Ferri wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> ${PORTDIR}/tags/games/puzzles/ksudoku -> ../../../kde-base/ksudoku >> ${PORTDIR}/tags/games/puzzles/sudoku/ksudoku -> > ../../../../kde-base/ksudoku >> ${PORTDIR}

Re: [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > ${PORTDIR}/tags/games/puzzles/ksudoku -> ../../../kde-base/ksudoku > ${PORTDIR}/tags/games/puzzles/sudoku/ksudoku -> ../../../../kde-base/ksudoku > ${PORTDIR}/tags/dying/amarok -> ../media-sound/amarok - -- I like the tag id

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 08.02.2009, 00:59 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 15:23 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Tiziano Müller wrote: > >>> Am M

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 15:23 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Tiziano Müller wrote: >>> Am Montag, den 02.02.2009, 12:34 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: For the digest forma

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] DIGESTS metadata variable for cache validation

2009-02-08 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 15:23 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > Am Montag, den 02.02.2009, 12:34 -0800 schrieb Zac Medico: > >> For the digest format, I suggest that we use the leftmost 10 > >> hexadecimal digits of the SH