Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday 10 October 2008, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:32:44 +0300 > > Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Of those, and those in overlays, and those that are going to be > > > committed over the next few weeks, how many use src_prepare to > > > apply security related

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Bridge
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:56:37 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:19 +0200 > Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Whatever. Some of you seem to have some quite agressive dislikement > > to it. In the end it's just a name/tag. I guess I could live

[gentoo-dev] net-nds/nis-utils needs a maintainer or it will get removed.

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
If you don't use NIS or NIS+ you can stop reading now; if you do use NIS or NIS+...I'm so so sorry. The basic gist is "this package is old and everyone should move to LDAP." Consider it masked in two weeks for removal in 30 days unless a maintainer is found. -Alec

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding features to Portage that work on top of any EAPI

2008-10-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:40:53 -0500 "Jeremy Olexa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a way I feel like we (the Prefix project) are mis-using the EAPI > value. You're misusing it in the way you treat it as a set of strings rather than a single value. But this being an EAPI thing seems right. > If we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:17:14 -0700: > >> Consider this your first and last warning from Userrel. > > FWIW... at least on gmane, that appears as a re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:19 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever. Some of you seem to have some quite agressive dislikement > to it. In the end it's just a name/tag. I guess I could live with > anything, including c3p0. Well, while I dislike x64 I'm more concerned about

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding features to Portage that work on top of any EAPI

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:46:55 +0200 > What's the scope of the changes? I think it'd be easiest to discuss > this if you posted an informal summary describing the differences in > terms of which bits of PMS are affected. Ci

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:15:16 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, x64 is the marketing name Microsoft made up for x86_64 (aka > > amd64, ia32e and Intel 64), as "Windows for x86_64" doesn't sound > > that sexy, and was later adopted by Sun and others. > > ia64/Itanium doesn't h

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:32:44 +0300 Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of those, and those in overlays, and those that are going to be > > committed over the next few weeks, how many use src_prepare to apply > > security related patches? > > A round zero. Security patches are going stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Fabian Groffen wrote: Most notably, in Prefix all keywords are full GLEP53 style, which results in e.g. amd64-linux. We did this on purpose, because in Prefix we don't necessarily are on Gentoo Linux. We also chose to expand fbsd, nbsd and obsd to their long variants, mainly because the short

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-10-2008 14:40:13 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > - x64 is what the vendors (Apple, Sun) advertise themselves > > Err I'm sure I haven't seen any x64 in the documentation or > advertisement of my MacBook Pro, are you sure _Apple_ use

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Duncan
"Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:17:14 -0700: > Consider this your first and last warning from Userrel. FWIW... at least on gmane, that appears as a response to aballier (gentoo dev), with references headers indicating the same

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - x64 is what the vendors (Apple, Sun) advertise themselves Err I'm sure I haven't seen any x64 in the documentation or advertisement of my MacBook Pro, are you sure _Apple_ uses that totally bogus name? Anyway, em64t might be better, but then again y

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 20:11 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > ia64-hpux There's one thing to say for this platform to avoid later confusion: 'ia64-hpux' is the keyword for 32bit on that platform. 'ia64w-hpux' would be the 64bit keyword (not in prefix-tree yet). This might seem confusing, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
I don't want to be the guy that kicks people off lists; but I will do it; so keep the thread on topic[0] and be nice[1]. I know everyone here is capable of that. Feel free to sling the personal crap comments somewhere more appropriate (such as a personal diary, blog, or in verbal complaints to a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-10-2008 04:21:23 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > >> amd64-linux > > >> x64-openbsd > > >> x64-solaris > > > > > > Is there a special reason why you're using "x64" instead of "amd64" > > > in those cases? (IMO x64 is the most stupid name for the x86_64 > > > architecture) > > > > AFAIK, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:22:19 -0700 > Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So where exactly is this "sky is falling" issue you're worried >> about? Bugs happen. > > It means anyone using EAPI 2 now is going to encount

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for October

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:25:55 -0500 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 05:30 Wed 01 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even >> > vote on, let us