[gentoo-dev] Lenght of version components [was: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008]

2008-05-08 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > PMS: Are versions allowed to have more than 8 digits? > - > specifically to ask the package maintainers with extremely > long PVs whether they were needed and to test the

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > The new lzma-utils codebase uses liblzma, written in C. It's at the > > alpha stage but supposedly supports encoding/decoding the current > > lzma format "well enough" (;P). It probably has some f

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008

2008-05-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all, Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. Thanks, Donnie Quick summary = Active-developer document: We reviewed it and made some suggestions for improving both the document and the onlin

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2008-05-08 at 21:09 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > e) It has been suggested the support should have been added with new > > EAPI instead of local build deps (some of which are missing, for > > instance in the hand-rolled for-no-reason-whatsoever .tar.lzma format > > net-tools doesn't have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > e) It has been suggested the support should have been added with new > > EAPI instead of local build deps (some of which are missing, for > > instance in the hand-rolled for-no-reason-whatsoever .tar.lzma format > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-05-2008 21:45:00 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > d) too early adoption in critical system packages - once above issues > are solved, higher levels should be using it first, before critical > system packages (for example shows in the circular dep hell with m4) been there, done that. > e) It ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2008-05-07 at 15:34 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 07-05-2008 16:23:12 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > This is a plea and also a request for comments on the matter of > > using .tar.lzma tarballs or not, and for what packages this is > > acceptable and for what not. > > Just as a little b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday 08 May 2008, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Additionally to follow myself up, I believe one of the security > issues was execution of arbitrary data either when untarred or just > decompressed (assuming a  specially crafted lzma file). Can you please point me to the location where this is men

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You miss my point. GNU tar sometimes changes its on disk format (and > will be doing so again at some point for xattrs) It's not really important to the discussion, but... The TAR format is designed as such that on disk formats can be extended withou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:32:34 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's troubling to me that projects are using lzma when it's on disk format isn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
Doug Goldstein wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's troubling to me that projects are using lzma when it's on disk format isn't even final and the project has security issues. You mean projects like 'GNU tar'?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:32:34 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 > > Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It's troubling to me that projects are using lzma when it's on disk > >> format isn't even final and the pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's troubling to me that projects are using lzma when it's on disk format isn't even final and the project has security issues. You mean projects like 'GNU tar'? As far as I know Ci

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's troubling to me that projects are using lzma when it's on disk > format isn't even final and the project has security issues. You mean projects like 'GNU tar'? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ryan Hill wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:23:12 +0300 Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Over the course of this year, a lzma-utils buildtime dependency has been added to a few system packages, to handle .tar.lzma tarballs. This has huge implications on the requirement of the sys

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 01:44:53PM +0200, Santiago M. Mola wrote: > > > > Here you have latest pms revision built without kdebuild-1 spec: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~coldwind/pms.pdf > > > > Already did (hence the bash

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: gnome-extra/shermans-aquarium

2008-05-08 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
# Gilles Dartiguelongue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (08 May 2008) # Masked for removal on 8 June 2008. # Builds but as issues here and there. # Not bumpable without fixing dead libs. # See bug #216566. gnome-extra/shermans-aquarium btw, gai for example is masked for removal since January or so, guys plea

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 12:23:39PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2008 04:15:10 -0700 > Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If PMS is going to be discussed in some form, it's a fair request > > that folks have an easily readable version. > > The relevant sentence was provid

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 01:44:53PM +0200, Santiago M. Mola wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If PMS is going to be discussed in some form, it's a fair request that > > folks have an easily readable version. > > Here you have latest pms revision

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If PMS is going to be discussed in some form, it's a fair request that > folks have an easily readable version. Here you have latest pms revision built without kdebuild-1 spec: http://dev.gentoo.org/~coldwind/pms.pdf It'

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 08 May 2008, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: >>> So it would also be possible to compile "lzmadec" without any need >>> for C++. Just call "make" in subdirs liblzmadec and lzmadec. >> >> What about USE=decode-only or something similar for lzma-utils, >> then? If desired, it could e

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Should that be USE=-cxx? The help for USE=cxx says that this builds > support for C++. It was meant as setting a cxx USE on the ebuild, I wasn't certainly meaning to disable the C++ parts with USE=cxx enabled ;) -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò http://blo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Mart Raudsepp wrote: Hello, Over the course of this year, a lzma-utils buildtime dependency has been added to a few system packages, to handle .tar.lzma tarballs. This has huge implications on the requirement of the system toolchain, which is highly disturbing from a minimal (lets say embedded)

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 8 May 2008 04:15:10 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If PMS is going to be discussed in some form, it's a fair request > that folks have an easily readable version. The relevant sentence was provided. Had you bothered to read the agenda, you would know this. -- Ciaran McC

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 12:01:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2008 03:57:16 -0700 > Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 02:03:45AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Requested attendees > > > === > > > > > > PMS: ciaranm, pkgcore

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 8 May 2008 03:57:16 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 02:03:45AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Requested attendees > > === > > > > PMS: ciaranm, pkgcore dev, portage dev, any other tools that care > > about versions > > Might I su

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Graham Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) writes: > USE=cxx should do just fine, it will disable the C++-related parts, > whatever they are. Sincerely I'd quite like to enable it on my vserver's > build chroots too. Should that be USE=-cxx? The help for USE=cxx says that this builds support f

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 02:03:45AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Requested attendees > === > > PMS: ciaranm, pkgcore dev, portage dev, any other tools that care about > versions Might I suggest that if PMS is going to be discussed, a copy of PMS.pdf actually be available

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So it would also be possible to compile "lzmadec" without any need for >> C++. Just call "make" in subdirs liblzmadec and lzmadec. > > What about USE=decode-only or something similar for lzma-utils, then? If > desired, it could even be masked on "normal" pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 03:04 Wed 07 May , Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council > meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the > channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). > > If you're supposed to show up, please s

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Duncan
Ulrich Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 07 May 2008 16:55:39 +0200: > The decoder of lzma-utils is also written in C only. > > So it would also be possible to compile "lzmadec" without any need for > C++. Just call "make" in subdirs liblzmadec and lz