Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 08:28 Tue 07 Aug , Lars Weiler wrote: > Last night some of us infra-folk had a chat in #gentoo-infra > about this commitlog-mailinglist. solar stated that the > ammount of messages in the dev-mailboxes was the reason to > shut down that list some years ago (I have to fetch my > archives to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Lars Weiler
* Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 19:20 +0300]: > Well perhaps we should just look at the overall usage of the mail box > instead of how it's used. I think there is already some limit in our > policy for how big you can keep your mailbox. Last night some of us infra-folk had a chat in #

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: >> Vlastimil Babka wrote: >> >>> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before >>> commiting a bump, IMHO >>> >> Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die >> because TODO wasn't around. Vote against

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Hooks are gone from java eclasses

2007-08-06 Thread Steve Long
Petteri Räty wrote: > Steve Long kirjoitti: >> Petteri Räty wrote: >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 >>> >> What is the situation regarding the hooks in general? > A user feature as said in the bug. > What, you mean the bit I quoted? I am well aware it's a "user feature," surprisin

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Steve Long
Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> The stabilization idea sounds good and it could free maintainers from >> filing similar bugs over and over ; but wouldn't this be more and harder >> work for arch teams?. For example, they should carefully track the >> history of all the packages to know when and if they

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 06 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: > Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > > On Saturday 04 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: > >>> Vlastimil Babka wrote: > dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before > commiting a bump, IMHO > >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new gnustep eclasses

2007-08-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 00:04 Tue 07 Aug , Bernard Cafarelli wrote: > Latest version of the base eclass (sent with this mail) can be found at: > http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/gnustep/browser/overlay/eclass/gnustep-base.eclass > > This one does most of the hard work, especially in egnustep_env which > sets up an

[gentoo-dev] RFC: new gnustep eclasses

2007-08-06 Thread Bernard Cafarelli
Hello all, Fabian Groffen (grobian) and myself have been working on giving some love to GNUstep support in Gentoo, which you can track progress from the gnustep overlay: http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/gnustep This has now turned in a massive rewrite of the gnustep eclasses and base packages, wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 09:08 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. > > Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't > > remembe

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 04:31 +, Luis Medinas wrote: > Of course you don't need to build all gnome for the livecd and i bet Umm... yes, we do. Remember that an offline install requires the packages to exist on the LiveCD. If we did only half of GNOME, nobody could install GNOME. The problem i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 21:13 -0400, Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: > > - arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting KEYWORD > > changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional dependencies > > for your architecture, you are not only permitted, but really are > > required

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: net-wireless/aircrack-ptw

2007-08-06 Thread Lars Weiler
# Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (06 Aug 2007) # included in aircrack-ng since version 0.9.0 # masked for removal in 30 days net-wireless/aircrack-ptw -- Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +49-171-1963258 Instant Messaging : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux PowerPC : Developer Gentoo Infrastru

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Lars Weiler kirjoitti: > * Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 08:01 -0700]: >> One thing to note.. If we do make mailing list for this. It should not >> be archived in any such way. devs that subscribe to the mailing list >> better not be storing mail in imap on infra resources. >> We simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > On Saturday 04 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: >>> Vlastimil Babka wrote: dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before commiting a bump, IMHO >>> Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Hooks are gone from java eclasses

2007-08-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Steve Long kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 >> > What is the situation regarding the hooks in general? > A user feature as said in the bug. > >>> They're a horrible solution. They don't stack and they override >>> something that is used by users.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Lars Weiler
* Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 08:01 -0700]: > One thing to note.. If we do make mailing list for this. It should not > be archived in any such way. devs that subscribe to the mailing list > better not be storing mail in imap on infra resources. > We simply don't have that kinda spare

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 16:43 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 08:23 -0400]: > > doit (and update lists.xml in the process) > > I can't. The list seems to be closed or limited to a > special address. Furthermore it seems that our listmaster > is either MIA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Lars Weiler
* Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 08:23 -0400]: > doit (and update lists.xml in the process) I can't. The list seems to be closed or limited to a special address. Furthermore it seems that our listmaster is either MIA or at LWE. Regards, Lars -- Lars Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-dev] Re: Hooks are gone from java eclasses

2007-08-06 Thread Steve Long
Petteri Räty wrote: > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 > What is the situation regarding the hooks in general? > > They're a horrible solution. They don't stack and they override > > something that is used by users. What's going to happen if anyone else > > starts using the same func

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:06:07 -0700 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting >> KEYWORD changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional >> dependencies for your architecture, you are not only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 August 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: > Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: > > Vlastimil Babka wrote: > >> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before > >> commiting a bump, IMHO > > > > Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die > > because TOD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist (was: Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality)

2007-08-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 August 2007, Lars Weiler wrote: > So, if you want, we can reactivate that list. doit (and update lists.xml in the process) -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:06:07 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > - HOMEPAGE changes > - LICENSE changes > - arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting KEYWORD > changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional dependencies > for your architecture, you are not only permitted, but r

[gentoo-dev] Re: Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > So, if you want, we can reactivate that list. > Pylon, you rock! Now that everything's working, let's get the -commits > list reactivated. Yes, please. AOL. V-Li -- http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.faulhammer.org/ http://www.gnupg.org/ signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [a lot of things] everything but > - metadata.xml changes is ok in my eyes. Additions should be fine, but removing should be a no-no. Emphasize on common sense and after reading the "guide" and doing the first commit, the person should write "I will test