[gentoo-dev] fwbuilder and libfwbuilder

2007-07-24 Thread Carlos Silva
Hi guys, if nobody has an objection to it, i'll take maintainership of the fwbuilder/libfwbuilder ebuilds since they are in need of love. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-07-29 23h59 UTC

2007-07-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 09:26:18PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed > from the tree, for the week ending 2007-07-29 23h59 UTC. Ignore this one, it's the next weeks run due to a cron burp. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Dev

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-07-22 23h59 UTC

2007-07-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-07-22 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-plugins/banshee-official-plugins 2007-07-17 03:41:26 drac mail-client/muttng 2007-07-19 17:47:28 grobian dev-java/bluej-bin

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-07-29 23h59 UTC

2007-07-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-07-29 23h59 UTC. Removals: games-fps/blackshades-cvs 2007-07-23 12:41:47 nyhm dev-cpp/libbonobomm 2007-07-24 01:35:02 leio dev-cpp/libbonobouimm 2007-0

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Markus Ullmann
Christina Fullam schrieb: > Just a reminder about nominations and voting... > If anyone is still interested in running, you have one week left for > nominations. > Most who have accepted havent told us why we should vote for them. While > that information is not required perhaps it should be if we

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-24 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 7/21/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is just a heads up for getting baselayout-2 stable. Next week I plan to put baselayout-2.0.0_rc1 into the tree without any keywords and it will be removed from package.mask (keeping the current alphas masked though). Arch teams will then be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: > i'm a bit confused... > i have the same problem... > i try to make an upgrade and it says that pidgin is going to be rebuilt > without the msn use flag(althoug i have enabled the use flag for > pidgin,in /etc/portage/package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-24 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
i'm a bit confused... i have the same problem... i try to make an upgrade and it says that pidgin is going to be rebuilt without the msn use flag(althoug i have enabled the use flag for pidgin,in /etc/portage/package.use)... what's the problem?...is there a solution?... :/ thx... O/H Christian Faul

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Tiziano Müller
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > And there aren't specification-compliant Yaml libraries for Ruby, > Python or Perl. That's important. If you're using the thing that Syck > generates, you're not using Yaml. Sorry for starting this off-topic discussion. I'd suggest that we first concentrate on what we wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:11:35 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Yaml looks nicer than XML on the surface, but unfortunately it's > > still a pain in the ass to handle... > > > > Basically because there aren't nicer libraries for languages different > than r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Yaml looks nicer than XML on the surface, but unfortunately it's still a > pain in the ass to handle... > Basically because there aren't nicer libraries for languages different than ruby python and perl... =/ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Yesterday night I tried to reply but I was too tired... Christina Fullam wrote: > Just a reminder about nominations and voting... > If anyone is still interested in running, you have one week left for > nominations. > Most who have accepted havent told us why we should vote for them. While > that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:46:05 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > The only specification-compliant yaml parser is written in C, has > > only the bottom two layers of the stack and no usable external > > bindings... Perhaps you mean "something that's basically y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > The only specification-compliant yaml parser is written in C, has > only the bottom two layers of the stack and no usable external > bindings... Perhaps you mean "something that's basically yaml except > with reserved string-start characters not handled correctly", in which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:25:56 +0200 "Wulf C. Krueger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've said my piece. You'll vote for me if you agree with my > > technical decisions and you find yourself siding with me (even > > mentally) in the few discussions I take part in on -dev and #-dev. > > I can't say

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 14:25 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > I can't say much about your technical decisions because I haven't > consciously seen any, I rarely see you take part in any discussions. Maybe that's because -dev wasn't a forum for technical discussion. Hopefully that might change. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > Christian Faulhammer wrote: >> Petteri Rýty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: >>> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/variables/index.html >>> What do you think about adding a sentence or two saying tha

[gentoo-dev] My answers to the questions for the council candidates

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Christina Fullam kirjoitti: > Just a reminder about nominations and voting... > If anyone is still interested in running, you have one week left for > nominations. > Most who have accepted havent told us why we should vote for them. While > that information is not required perhaps it should be if w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:18:46 +0200 Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 > > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would > >> make it impossible to us

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Tiziano Müller
Petteri Räty schrieb: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186454 In regard to this it makes sense to add a check (but only a warning) to repoman and document it in the devmanual. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Tiziano Müller
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make >> it impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some >> duplication. > > Got to be careful he

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Tiziano Müller
Petteri Räty schrieb: > Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:06:40 +0300 >> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> But is there anything that makes use of version specific DESCRIPTION >>> atoms? >> Yep. Have a look at sys-devel/gcc for example. Some versions include >> various

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday, 24. July 2007 14:26, Petteri Räty wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 > > > > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would > >> make it impossible to use ${PV} and more i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make it >> impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some duplication. > > > > > sounds like something for EAP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make >> it impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some >> duplication. > > Got to be careful

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Roy! I've said my piece. You'll vote for me if you agree with my technical decisions and you find yourself siding with me (even mentally) in the few discussions I take part in on -dev and #-dev. I can't say much about your technical decisions because I haven't consciously seen any, I r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:06:40 +0300 > Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But is there anything that makes use of version specific DESCRIPTION >> atoms? > > Yep. Have a look at sys-devel/gcc for example. Some versions include > various extensions, and say so in D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make > it impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some > duplication. Got to be careful here. In the past it's been stated tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:06:40 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But is there anything that makes use of version specific DESCRIPTION > atoms? Yep. Have a look at sys-devel/gcc for example. Some versions include various extensions, and say so in DESCRIPTION. -- Ciaran McCreesh sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread David Shakaryan
Tiziano Müller wrote: As far as I understood it, having DESCRIPTION in the ebuild itself (rather than in metadata) means that DESCRIPTION is allowed to change between versions, whether "automatically" by using a version-dependent variable or "manually". Well, from what I understand, DESCRIPTION

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty schrieb: >> Currently there are some ebuilds in the tree that use ${PV} in >> description which leads to results like: >> Description: Documentation (including API Javadocs) for >> Java SDK version 1.6.0 >> >> I did see anything in devmanual tak

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: > Christian Faulhammer wrote: >> Petteri Rýty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: >>> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/variables/index.html >>> What do you think about adding a sentence or two saying

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Tiziano Müller
Petteri Räty schrieb: > Currently there are some ebuilds in the tree that use ${PV} in > description which leads to results like: > Description: Documentation (including API Javadocs) for > Java SDK version 1.6.0 > > I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: > htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread David Shakaryan
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make it impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some duplication. I think that this is a great idea, for the reasons which you stated. I certainly hope this will not be yet another

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: media-fonts/artwiz-fonts

2007-07-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (23 Jul 2007) > # duplicated by media-fonts/artwiz-aleczapka-en. use that instead. > # Bug #186400 > media-fonts/artwiz-fonts Unmasked until artwiz-aleczapka-en gets the appropriate keywording. Sorry about that. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tosse

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Petteri R�ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: >> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/variables/index.html >> What do you think about adding a sentence or two

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/variables/index.html > What do you think about adding a sentence or two saying that you > should not use version numbers in DESCRIPTION? This could even b

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Currently there are some ebuilds in the tree that use ${PV} in description which leads to results like: Description: Documentation (including API Javadocs) for Java SDK version 1.6.0 I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writ

[gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

2007-07-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > Michael Cummings wrote: > a. The Project Will Be Free Software. The Conservancy and the Project agree that any software distributed by the Project will be distributed solely as Free Software. > >>> If that's not a problem I think this is a great idea.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] qmail.eclass draft

2007-07-24 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:55:16 +0200 Benedikt Boehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:17:46 +0200 > Michael Hanselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:05:23PM +0200, Benedikt Boehm wrote: > > > > qmail_base_install should be split in smaller functions,

[gentoo-dev] Re: baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, the "best" for us is if it is already stable in the tree before > we snapshot, as that means it was tested and stabilized prior to our > snapshot and likely has more QA done on it before we even start the > release. If we can do that, then Release Eng

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-24 Thread José Luis Rivero (yoswink)
Roy Marples escribió: On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:30 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: We'll definitely want the same version stable across the board. I'll be sure to work with Roy and you to ensure we come to an agreement on what to use and that we're all on the same page. Fair enough. Should I o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 17:38 -0700, Christina Fullam wrote: > Just a reminder about nominations and voting... > If anyone is still interested in running, you have one week left for > nominations. > Most who have accepted havent told us why we should vote for them. While > that information is not req