Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: EAPI-1 (or >1, perhaps) Proposal: AND Dependencies

2007-06-18 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/19/07, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kent Fredric wrote: > If you can, try integrate a name based syntax into the requirement. > using decorative characters alone may have their uses, but there are > only so many you can use, and so many combinations you can create > before all your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pony Colour Schemes [was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree]

2007-06-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: > Andrew Gaffney wrote: >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: >>> If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to >>> pink ponies, we can. >> Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? > > As *everybody* knows, purple ponies aren't pretty. > > > > > Well, maybe a l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Tuesday 19 Jun 2007 4:19:49 am Steve Long wrote: > > Er what? Some of us don't wish to be "at the mercy of" anyone, especially > not some corporation nicking VOIP. That's why we use GNU software. > I don't understand this attitude. Do you really have to bash everything that you do not use? Do y

[gentoo-dev] Re: Pony Colour Schemes [was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree]

2007-06-18 Thread Ryan Hill
Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to >> pink ponies, we can. > > Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? As *everybody* knows, purple ponies aren't pretty. Well, maybe a little bit. -- dirtyepic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Determining ebuild stability and the 30 day suggestion

2007-06-18 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hey, > > On E, 2007-06-18 at 11:34 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> Also, remember that stabilization is *supposed* to be about the >> stabilization of the *ebuild* and not the *package* itself. > > This sentence made me pers

[gentoo-dev] Determining ebuild stability and the 30 day suggestion (was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree)

2007-06-18 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Hey, On E, 2007-06-18 at 11:34 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Also, remember that stabilization is *supposed* to be about the > stabilization of the *ebuild* and not the *package* itself. This sentence made me personally start looking at the policy in a different way as far as stabilization an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Chris Gianelloni wrote: If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to pink ponies, we can. Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Catalyst/Installe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:49 +0100, Steve Long wrote: > Oh I see, when it's > stuff *you* care about, it's development. Cool. That's sort of the point, isn't it? Developers are here mostly to scratch their own respective itches -- so, by necessity, we talk about stuff we care about. signature.a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:49 +0100, Steve Long wrote: > >> Could you clarify whether this is indeed a Gentoo QA issue, or in fact a > >> licensing issue? If the latter case, this discussion should prob'y go to > >> the new -project ml if and when, or indeed the user forums. > > > > The "problem" wi

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: EAPI-1 (or >1, perhaps) Proposal: AND Dependencies

2007-06-18 Thread Steve Long
Kent Fredric wrote: > If you can, try integrate a name based syntax into the requirement. > using decorative characters alone may have their uses, but there are > only so many you can use, and so many combinations you can create > before all your code starts looking like perl's acme eyedrops. I say

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Steve Long
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 06:01 +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> Stephen Bennett wrote: >> > Not everyone sees that as a reason not to use a potentially useful >> > piece of software. We're not debian. >> >> Could you clarify whether this is indeed a Gentoo QA issue, or in fact a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Steve Long
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: >> It is neither a QA nor license issue, its an issue of the download being >> unavailable. Please read the full thread. > And to reply to myself - its a licensing issue since we cannot mirror > the distfile. Er thanks for that ;) > However, I hardly find that "facist" -

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:50:51 -0700: > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 08:58 +, Duncan wrote: >> So at this point it's pretty much up to the maintainer. Why are the >> rest of us still discussing it? > > Because, like ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Daniel Ostrow
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 21:11 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:39:26AM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > Internet Explorer doesn't even *run* on Gentoo. If it did, it > > would likely be in the tree since quite a few people would likely use > > it, even if just for testing.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:39:26AM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Internet Explorer doesn't even *run* on Gentoo. If it did, it > would likely be in the tree since quite a few people would likely use > it, even if just for testing. I know that if I were able to test things > on IE from Linux wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 08:58 +, Duncan wrote: > So at this point it's pretty much up to the maintainer. Why are the rest > of us still discussing it? Because, like everything else, too many people on this list have to get in the last word. Also, there's nothing in our policy that really keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 06:01 +0100, Steve Long wrote: > Stephen Bennett wrote: > > Not everyone sees that as a reason not to use a potentially useful > > piece of software. We're not debian. > > Could you clarify whether this is indeed a Gentoo QA issue, or in fact a > licensing issue? If the latte

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:05 +0100, Steve Long wrote: > keep. Or is it that Skype are a big company so we have to kowtow? /me is > well-confused. It has nothing to do with money or the company, and everything to do with the number of people using it. While ion3 is uncommonly used, skype is much mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-dns/bind{,-tools} needs an active maintainer

2007-06-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 12:18 -0500, Martin Jackson wrote: > Christian Heim wrote: > > On Sunday 17 June 2007 14:43:59 Konstantin V. Arkhipov wrote: > >>i'm too busy with real life atm, is there anyone willing to help with > >> bind's maintaining? > > > > What happened to mjolnir (as in Martin J

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: Steve Long wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: Not everyone sees that as a reason not to use a potentially useful piece of software. We're not debian. Could you clarify whether this is indeed a Gentoo QA issue, or in fact a licensing issue? If the latter case, this discuss

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Steve Long wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: Not everyone sees that as a reason not to use a potentially useful piece of software. We're not debian. Could you clarify whether this is indeed a Gentoo QA issue, or in fact a licensing issue? If the latter case, this discussion should prob'y go to the

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-18 Thread Duncan
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:08:13 +0100: > Josh Saddler wrote: >> As we've established earlier, being closed-source is not sufficient >> reason for removing any program from Portage; you should have read the >> rest of the threa