On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:43:49 -0600 (MDT)
Jason Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..snip..]
But who are people going to accidentally hilight now?! :'(
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Benjamin Judas wrote:
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21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
package manager on alpha
21:36 <@eroyf> yes
21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips
21:36 * eroyf giggles
21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways
21:37 <@spb> and of course the ultim
...to maintain it.
Boa is "a single-tasking HTTP server. That means that unlike
traditional Web servers, it does not fork for each incoming connection,
nor does it fork many copies of itself to handle multiple connections.
It internally multiplexes all of the ongoing HTTP connections, and forks
Tobias Klausmann wrote:
I'm not pulling the "leave in a huff" card. Gentoo can survive
without me just fine. But I think it might be illustrative that
I, as a user seek alternatives due to this completely irrational,
childish and downright stupid behaviour.
An excellent former manager of min
Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> But seeing how things have been deteriorating in the last few
> months, I begin to doubt that that's a good idea.
>
> I'm not pulling the "leave in a huff" card. Gentoo can survive
> without me just fine. But I think it might be illustrative that
> I, as a user seek alte
Hiya all,
I've had three new people join the conflict resolution sub project of
devrel over the last couple of weeks.
Chrissy Fulham aka musikc
Deedra Waters aka dmwaters
Michael Marineau aka marineam
I'm glad to have them onboard and they've already convinced me that
adding them to the team wa
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 03:35 +0200, Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
>
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
> pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo
Mike Auty wrote:
> The number of Gentoo developers, I believe, is in the range of 400,
> but I've never counted them all.
FYI, Off-Topic:
According to http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml
336 active developers, 50 of them marked away.
According to
http://www.gent
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 15:43 -0600, Jason Wever wrote:
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> On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Wernfried Haas wrote:
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> > So far we have temporarily suspended both ciaran's and geoman's account
> > from posting and encourage everyone to do as Roy initially sugges
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 00:33 +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> Hi!
Tobias,
I just wanted to say that I feel you raised some very valid points and
your e-mail was pretty good!
Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Christel
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Tobias,
As a mostly under-spoken developer, I'd like to say that there are many
other developers in Gentoo than just those seen regularly on -dev. We
also add ebuilds to the tree, but tend to be content minding our own
little corner of Gentoo.
Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:00:25PM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I really have to agree with you. The proctors have completely lost
their way. They are ineffective. They tend to compound the problems
they were created to stop. They are slow. They have not prevented
an
Tobias Klausmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [lots of good stuff]
You rock. It's that simple.
Your analysis of the problem hits the nail on the head and i call on all
participating devs and users alike to step the hell back and take a deep
breath before posting again. It's helps your bloodpressur
Hi!
First, a few words on where I'm coming from, so you can maybe see
why I see things the way I do. I've been using Gentoo since some
time before 1.2. I've always liked its flexibility, its excellent
docs and that one could always find out how things work.
I'm also a Gentoo rsync mirror admin. T
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:00:28PM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> As much as I dislike many of the posts from geoman/ciaranm, they really
> had not done anything worthy of being banned.
1) Someone posts a thread which is about to go up in flames.
2) After a short period of time, the proctors pos
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:00:25PM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> I really have to agree with you. The proctors have completely lost
> their way. They are ineffective. They tend to compound the problems
> they were created to stop. They are slow. They have not prevented
> anything, which was
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Jason,
If you leave, the plants win.
That has just made my day.
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Perhaps it would be a good time to try another approach to the problem?
How about proctors that are responsible for ensuring any arguments stay
within bounds of technical discussion and formal logic rules?
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> I really have to agree with you. The proctors have completely los
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:08:27PM +0100, Richard Brown wrote:
> Proctors: please let me know when my ban expires.
You're not even banned?
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On 05/06/07, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As a member of the Council, I find it personally offensive that the
Proctors have taken this action on what wasn't even a "problem" thread.
I'm sick of this. I call for the immediate disbanding of the Proctors.
As much as I dislike many o
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 21:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:44:23 +0100
> Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For that reason alone, it should normally be avoided in international
> > forums such as are provided by Gentoo.
>
> Why yes! Gentoo needs to be one hundred
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 15:43 -0600, Jason Wever wrote:
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> On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Wernfried Haas wrote:
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> > So far we have temporarily suspended both ciaran's and geoman's account
> > from posting and encourage everyone to do as Roy initially sugges
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 23:13 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:44:23PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Please step back, take a deep breath and avoid posting to this thread
> > for 24 hours.
>
> Folks, while we're cutting some slack to the people replying
> somewhere else in
On Tuesday 05 of June 2007 23:45:22 Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> as you have, because apparently, neither of us can follow a simple
> instruction.
I couldn't care less about proctors' instructions after their latest decision.
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:13:25PM +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:44:23PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > Please step back, take a deep breath and avoid posting to this thread
> > for 24 hours.
>
> Folks, while we're cutting some slack to the people replying
> somewhere e
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Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 of June 2007 23:13:48 Wernfried Haas wrote:
>> So far we have temporarily suspended both ciaran's and geoman's account
>> from posting and encourage everyone to do as Roy initially suggested.
>
> Haven't roy ju
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Wernfried Haas wrote:
So far we have temporarily suspended both ciaran's and geoman's account
from posting and encourage everyone to do as Roy initially suggested.
Regardless of whether their postings are viewed as useful or no
On Tuesday 05 of June 2007 23:13:48 Wernfried Haas wrote:
> So far we have temporarily suspended both ciaran's and geoman's account
> from posting and encourage everyone to do as Roy initially suggested.
Haven't roy just said that jokes "should normally be avoided in international
forums such as
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:08:38 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was your behaviour wrong? Not particularly. Was it in bad taste?
> Definitely. Could his email to the list stop others from making the
> same mistakes? Hopefully.
Bad taste depends entirely upon context and upon the pe
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:22:04 +0200
"Fernando J. Pereda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Common sense? Where the hell are you?
Common sense abandoned Gentoo months ago. Maybe years.
Unless it was the other way around, which seems more likely.
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Way to go Proctors! I think you just tipped few more people over the edge.
Wernfried Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:44:23PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
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>> Please step back, take a deep breath and avoid posting to this thread
>> for 24 hours.
>>
>
> Folks, while we're cutting som
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:44:23PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Please step back, take a deep breath and avoid posting to this thread
> for 24 hours.
Folks, while we're cutting some slack to the people replying
somewhere else in the thread because they may not have gotten the mail
by Roy yet (and
Stephen Bennett wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:29:02 +0200
Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am sick of hearing such jokes.
Then ignore them, and don't blow them out of proportion so that
everyone else who didn't see them in its original context, and probably
doesn't particularly wan
Peter Weller wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:09:52 +0200
> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [..snip..]
>
> Is it just me or did you send the same mail to the ML twice?
>
> *sigh*
/me blames welp
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:44:23 +0100
Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007.06.05 21:09, Benjamin Judas wrote:
> > This is problably going to start a flamewar, but I am sick of such
> > (insert appropriate term for animal excrements here) on mailing
> > lists,
> [snip]
>
> Ladies and Gen
Am Dienstag 05 Juni 2007 22:37:25 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> > I am sick of hearing such jokes.
>
> Then don't listen.
Nono. It's not that easy.
New users will have to listen as they have to take things seriously being said
on official channels by developers.
I'm just telling you what new users
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:44:23 +0100
Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For that reason alone, it should normally be avoided in international
> forums such as are provided by Gentoo.
Why yes! Gentoo needs to be one hundred percent serious and entirely
not fun. Anyone saying anything remotely
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Peter Weller wrote:
> Is it just me or did you send the same mail to the ML twice?
It's just you, there's no dupe.
It's just you, there's no dupe.
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On 2007.06.05 21:09, Benjamin Judas wrote:
> This is problably going to start a flamewar, but I am sick of such
> (insert appropriate term for animal excrements here) on mailing
> lists,
[snip]
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please step back, take a deep breath and avoid posting to this thread
for 24 ho
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:29:02 +0200
Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am sick of hearing such jokes.
Then ignore them, and don't blow them out of proportion so that
everyone else who didn't see them in its original context, and probably
doesn't particularly want to, has to see them in
Christian Hartmann kirjoitti:
>> --8<
>> 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
>> package manager on alpha
>> 21:36 <@eroyf> yes
>> 21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips
>> 21:36 * eroyf giggles
>> 21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways
>> 21:37 <
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:29:02 +0200
Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
> > > package manager on alpha
> >
> > This is what is known as a joke. Most people can recognise it as
> > such.
>
> As is the whole discussion abo
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:09:52 +0200
Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..snip..]
Is it just me or did you send the same mail to the ML twice?
*sigh*
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> --8<
> 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
> package manager on alpha
> 21:36 <@eroyf> yes
> 21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips
> 21:36 * eroyf giggles
> 21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways
> 21:37 <@spb> and of course the ultimate aim i
> > 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
> > package manager on alpha
>
> This is what is known as a joke. Most people can recognise it as such.
As is the whole discussion about this 'project'. Addionally, for this
topic the borderlines between "joke" and "serious" se
This is problably going to start a flamewar, but I am sick of such
(insert appropriate term for animal excrements here) on mailing lists,
forums and even websites.
It's okay to have dreams, they keep us working on the things we like.
But trying to force your dreams to come true annoys other people
*snip*
> --8<
> 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
> package manager on alpha
> 21:36 <@eroyf> yes
> 21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips
> 21:36 * eroyf giggles
> 21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways
> 21:37 <@spb> and of course the ultimat
> 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported
> package manager on alpha
This is what is known as a joke. Most people can recognise it as such.
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This is problably going to start a flamewar, but I am sick of such
(insert appropriate term for animal excrements here) on mailing lists,
forums and even websites.
It's okay to have dreams, they keep us working on the things we like.
But trying to force your dreams to come true annoys other people
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It can also,
Be used by kismet, but it's not clear whether there are strong bindings
there, or if espeak could easily be substituted using kismet.conf.
Dunno if that's useful or not, but there you go...
Mike 5:)
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"Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:32:22AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement)
> > bugs that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation
> > to come
Hello William,
On Tuesday, June 5, 2007 06:25:07 AM William Hubbs wrote:
> app-accessibility/festival has not done a release upstream in some
> time.
I don't really *need* festival from an accessibility point of view but I'm
using it from time to time and find it quite useful.
> Once emacspeak
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Andrej Kacian wrote:
> Hah, yet another proof that Gentoo is addictive.
I wonder when we will be forced to put stickers like "Gentoo may
affect your social life" on our media :-)
Welcome back, Deedra!
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Nice to have you back with us Deedra!!!
On 6/5/07, Andrej Kacian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:08:48 +0200
Christian Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's my pleasure to welcome back Deedra Waters (also known as dmwaters on
> IRC).
>
> Deedra is joining us from Pensacola, FL
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:08:48 +0200
Christian Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's my pleasure to welcome back Deedra Waters (also known as dmwaters on
> IRC).
>
> Deedra is joining us from Pensacola, FL. She is going to work on the
> accessibility stuff (she is blind), will be re-joining Develo
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