Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Peter Gordon wrote: > On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Supporting this would be a huge policy violation, and not so merely as >> a technicality. I suggest simply removing ion support from the main >> tree, and sticking it in an overlay that comes with a big warning >> te

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:22:41 -0700 Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could we not simply rename it, as has been suggested many times thus > far? Then we could mask ion3 and let people know why and what it was > renamed to, et al. Presumably this would require maintaining updated documentat

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Peter Gordon
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Supporting this would be a huge policy violation, and not so merely as > a technicality. I suggest simply removing ion support from the main > tree, and sticking it in an overlay that comes with a big warning > telling users that they cann

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:13:57 +0200 Matti Bickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > recently, there's been some worries about the changes and new > requirements the ion upstream, tuomov, put forth in a new LICENSE for > ion-3. It's main additions are a "timely response clause", which > requires us to get

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Jakub Moc
Peter Gordon napsal(a): > On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 00:41 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: >> Well, one could ask why we should provide ebuild for stuff that has >> apparently insane upstream, instead of just dropping such junk until the >> upstream guy realizes that the world doesn't spin around him. > > But

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Peter Gordon
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 00:41 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: > Well, one could ask why we should provide ebuild for stuff that has > apparently insane upstream, instead of just dropping such junk until the > upstream guy realizes that the world doesn't spin around him. But if we did this, we'd have no cdre

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Jakub Moc
Jan Kundrát napsal(a): > Matti Bickel wrote: >> It's main additions are a "timely response clause", which >> requires us to get the same keywords for a newly released version as the >> previous had within 28 days. Another point is the "no patches" clause, >> which prohibits distributions from carry

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Matti Bickel wrote: >> It's main additions are a "timely response clause", which >> requires us to get the same keywords for a newly released version as the >> previous had within 28 days. Another point is the "no patches" clause, >> which prohibits distributions from carrying

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Jan Kundrát
Matti Bickel wrote: > It's main additions are a "timely response clause", which > requires us to get the same keywords for a newly released version as the > previous had within 28 days. Another point is the "no patches" clause, > which prohibits distributions from carrying a "significantly modified

[gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi, recently, there's been some worries about the changes and new requirements the ion upstream, tuomov, put forth in a new LICENSE for ion-3. It's main additions are a "timely response clause", which requires us to get the same keywords for a newly released version as the previous had within 28 da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Kevin F. Quinn kirjoitti: > > All these exceptions are doing the same thing - relaxing the GPL as it > applies to the compiler (or template library in this case), so that it > does not apply to works created using it. I like the > "GPL-2-with-linking-exception" license name that the gnu-classpath

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 12 May 2007 12:41:58 +0100 "Marcus D. Hanwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a template library called Eigen I would like to add to the > tree. It is a dependency of an application I would like to add > shortly. It will also end up being a dependency of KDE 4 (for > kalzium). My qu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:36:28 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are any other LiveCDs using it yet or otherwise providing IPv6 DHCP > functionality? What do they do? Surely it's not just a Gentoo > problem. There's only one dhcp IPv6 client, and thats dhcpv6 which hasn't been updat

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Duncan
Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 12 May 2007 16:16:38 +0100: > Although it's a requirement for IPv6 DHCP, it's recommended for IPv4 > these days too. It is a requirement for IPv4 DHCP over infiniband as > that has MAC address sizes that are great

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/pybugz needs a maintainer

2007-05-12 Thread Alec Warner
On 5/12/07, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/12/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice utility, now unfortunately a bit orphaned and with lots of open > bugs. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/2mkd7s > > Thanks. > > -- > Best regards, > > Jakub Moc > mailto:[EMAI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:34:10 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 12 May > 2007 06:47:38 -0400: > > > On Friday 11 May 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > >> livecd > >> (only a livecd is volative, even emb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:00:34 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 12 May 2007, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > Does it matter that the DUID-LLT isn't stored when starting from a > > Live-CD? I don't see why there is the need for a use flag for this > > functionality, when it doe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 04:21:52PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > Do you need to accept the unmodified GPL-2 for software licensed under > > the GPL-2 plus exception? No? Then GPL-2 does not belong in LICENSE, > > unless in a || group. > > Of cou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Saturday 12 May 2007 15:22:15 Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > Do you need to accept the unmodified GPL-2 for software licensed under > > the GPL-2 plus exception? No? Then GPL-2 does not belong in LICENSE, > > unless in a || group. > > Of course you ac

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml

2007-05-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi again, Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The metadata cleanup continues... > > A list of 427 packages found at > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/herd-metadata-check.log > > do not have the required tag in their metadata.xml[1]. some of these have tags afterall - albeit empty.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, Harald van Dijk wrote: > Do you need to accept the unmodified GPL-2 for software licensed under > the GPL-2 plus exception? No? Then GPL-2 does not belong in LICENSE, > unless in a || group. Of course you accept the GPL plus the added exception. Just because an exception

[gentoo-dev] net-www/apache-1* masked.

2007-05-12 Thread Luca Longinotti
Hi all! As announced in the 30 April 2007 edition of GWN [1], net-www/apache-1* as well as all packages depending/using it were masked, pending removal on 12 June 2007. I fixed all packages, dependencies, etc. I could find to work correctly after the masking (generally removing Apache 1.X support f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:13:02PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 02:27:20PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > > No. LICENSE="GPL-2 some-exception" suffices. > > > > No, that means something completely different. It means th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 02:27:20PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > No. LICENSE="GPL-2 some-exception" suffices. > > No, that means something completely different. It means that you should > install the software only if you find both the GPL-2 and t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > More important, what's with optional dependencies!? We don't support > > LICENSE="GPL-2 ssl? ( openssl-exception)" yes we do -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 02:27:20PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > No. LICENSE="GPL-2 some-exception" suffices. No, that means something completely different. It means that you should install the software only if you find both the GPL-2 and the exception acceptable, rather than if you find the comb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > Does it matter that the DUID-LLT isn't stored when starting from a Live-CD? > I don't see why there is the need for a use flag for this functionality, > when it doesn't imply a new dependency. the concern was to have a way to provide "nice" clients

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Marcus D. Hanwell kirjoitti: > There is a template library called Eigen I would like to add to the tree. It > is a dependency of an application I would like to add shortly. It will also > end up being a dependency of KDE 4 (for kalzium). My question relates to the > licence the code is released

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 02:27:43PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > No. LICENSE="GPL-2 some-exception" suffices. That said, we suck at our > licensing information badly. E.g. every single ebuild linking against OpenSSL > has (or at least needs to have) a linking exeption. We don't flag this > anyw

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Carsten Lohrke
Does it matter that the DUID-LLT isn't stored when starting from a Live-CD? I don't see why there is the need for a use flag for this functionality, when it doesn't imply a new dependency. Carsten signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Carsten Lohrke
Err, every single _GPL_licensed_ software needs an OpenSSL exception of course. Carsten signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Carsten Lohrke
No. LICENSE="GPL-2 some-exception" suffices. That said, we suck at our licensing information badly. E.g. every single ebuild linking against OpenSSL has (or at least needs to have) a linking exeption. We don't flag this anywhere. More important, what's with optional dependencies!? We don't supp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Duncan wrote: > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > > On Friday 11 May 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > >> livecd > >> (only a livecd is volative, even embedded devices have non volative > >> storage) > > > > i would use that myself ... perhaps even tie in USE=netboot ...

[gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
There is a template library called Eigen I would like to add to the tree. It is a dependency of an application I would like to add shortly. It will also end up being a dependency of KDE 4 (for kalzium). My question relates to the licence the code is released under. It is licenced under the GNU

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 12 May 2007 06:47:38 -0400: > On Friday 11 May 2007, Roy Marples wrote: >> livecd >> (only a livecd is volative, even embedded devices have non volative >> storage) > > i would use that myself ... perhaps even

[gentoo-dev] www-client/pybugz needs a maintainer

2007-05-12 Thread Jakub Moc
Nice utility, now unfortunately a bit orphaned and with lots of open bugs. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/2mkd7s Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 11 May 2007, Roy Marples wrote: > livecd > (only a livecd is volative, even embedded devices have non volative > storage) i would use that myself ... perhaps even tie in USE=netboot ... -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] invalid in metadata.xml

2007-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 10 May 2007, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Thilo Bangert wrote: > > All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to > > no-herd. > > maintainer-needed is different from no-herd. no-herd is valid when a dev > is maintaining a pkg outside of a herd. no-herd is not valid for when > the pack

[gentoo-dev] Re: Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

2007-05-12 Thread Steve Long
Jim Ramsay wrote: >> > This meets the following goals: >> > 1) It makes it easy for "regular" users to get netscape-flash with >> > any additions required by any global USE flags in exactly one step: >> > - emerge netscape-flash >> So, in netscape-flash: >> RDEPEND=" >> ssl? ( foo/libflashsupp

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suitable USE flag name for stuff that requires non volatile memory

2007-05-12 Thread Duncan
Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 12 May 2007 00:10:18 +0100: > dhcpcd-3.1 is [...] almost ready to be put into the tree. [N]ew > feature[:] generates a DUID-LLT [which should persist] across reboots. > I would like a nice USE flag name, so it can