Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 05 May 2007
00:17:46 +0100:
> On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:38:43 -0500
> Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Right which... seems to me something I would want to know *BEFORE*
>> I upgraded...
>
> N
On Friday 04 May 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What is with prepalldocs? Is it allowed to use in ebuilds? Should it
> > be in pms? Or is it just missing in prepall?
>
> The prep* functions are Portage internals. They're not suitable for
> ebuild use an
On Fri, 4 May 2007 20:01:58 -0400
Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doesn't help. It's only there once, and it's easy to ignore. Users
> > don't have to explicitly mark it as read, so it's frequently not
> > read. elog is not an adequate solution.
>
> Emm, That would depend upon the viewe
On Friday 04 May 2007 8:01:58 pm Dan Meltzer wrote:
> On Friday 04 May 2007 7:52:46 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
> >
> > Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > That seems like a really bad road to go down.
> > >
> > > Would it not be better to extend elog to
On Friday 04 May 2007 7:52:46 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
>
> Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That seems like a really bad road to go down.
> >
> > Would it not be better to extend elog to alert people at the end of
> > an install as well?
>
> Doesn't he
On Fri, 4 May 2007 19:48:19 -0400
Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That seems like a really bad road to go down.
>
> Would it not be better to extend elog to alert people at the end of
> an install as well?
Doesn't help. It's only there once, and it's easy to ignore. Users
don't have to e
On Friday 04 May 2007 6:58:44 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 4 May 2007 18:50:00 -0400
>
> Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How does this fit the following parts of the GLEP?
> >
> > "Preemptive
>
> Preemptiveness is not a requirement for this particular news item. It's
> necessary i
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:47:07 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can there be new messages with emerge --pretend if emerge --sync
> is the only way to get them? Should be saying unread messages and it
> would be clear to me.
A new message is one that hasn't been read.
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:38:43 -0500
Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right which... seems to me something I would want to know
> *BEFORE* I upgraded...
No no, if you find out before you upgrade you preemptively change your
config files and the old version breaks. If you find out
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Alexander Færøy wrote:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
>> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
>> configuratio
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:56:35 +0200
Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Display-If-Installed:
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On Fri, 4 May 2007 18:50:00 -0400
Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does this fit the following parts of the GLEP?
>
> "Preemptive
Preemptiveness is not a requirement for this particular news item. It's
necessary in many places but not this one.
> Additionally, what about this is so c
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:30:05 +0300
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So let's say this was a message about package foobar. If it only
>> affects users after they upgrade it would mean that new installs
>> would get t
On Fri, 4 May 2007 14:37:21 -0500
"Karl Haines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lol, its funny that we must concern ourselves with the needs of
> ""el1te gam3rs"", but I suppose its necessary.
We concern ourselves with the needs of everyone, from our elite users,
to our crapola devs. There are, or s
On Friday 04 May 2007 4:49:47 pm Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to zmedico we now have support for news items on infra-side and heck
> they are ready to use. And we should use them!
>
> Attaching news item for paludis 0.24.
> Justification: major config format change.
How does this f
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti:
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:34:37 +0300
> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ah found it in the GLEP:
>> "The package manager filters the news item and, if it is relevant,
>> marks the news item for reading. The package manager should also
>> display a notice informi
On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:34:37 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah found it in the GLEP:
> "The package manager filters the news item and, if it is relevant,
> marks the news item for reading. The package manager should also
> display a notice informing the user that there are unread n
On Sat, 05 May 2007 01:30:05 +0300
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So let's say this was a message about package foobar. If it only
> affects users after they upgrade it would mean that new installs
> would get the news item too, wouldn't it?.
Yep. This situation was discussed when desig
Petteri Räty kirjoitti:
> Alexander Færøy kirjoitti:
>> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
>>> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
>>> configuration files after
Alexander Færøy kirjoitti:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
>> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
>> configuration files after upgrading." sounds like somet
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:13:12AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought news were
> supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
> configuration files after upgrading." sounds like something one would
> read before upg
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Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> On Friday 04 of May 2007 23:46:39 Thomas Rösner wrote:
>> You mean "Display-If-Installed:
> No, I want it displayed only after installation of the new version.
>
Isn't such use case just a replacement for elog? I thought
On Friday 04 of May 2007 23:46:39 Thomas Rösner wrote:
> You mean "Display-If-Installed:
Hi,
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (...)
>
> Display-If-Installed: >=sys-apps/paludis-0.24
You mean "Display-If-Installed:
Hello,
Thanks to zmedico we now have support for news items on infra-side and heck
they are ready to use. And we should use them!
Attaching news item for paludis 0.24.
Justification: major config format change.
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Title: Changes for Paludis 0.24
Author: Piotr Ja
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 20:43 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:36:51 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The point of policy is *not* to impede progress. It is supposed to be
> > to provide our users the best quality distribution. If policy gets in
> > the
On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:36:51 -0400
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The point of policy is *not* to impede progress. It is supposed to be
> to provide our users the best quality distribution. If policy gets in
> the way of progress without gain for our users, then the policy needs
>
Lol, its funny that we must concern ourselves with the needs of ""el1te
gam3rs"", but I suppose its necessary.
Karl Haines
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On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 08:53 -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
> I don't even see how this is a policy discussion at all as the policy is
> more or less clear to me; is it unclear for others? This is an
> enforcement problem, no?
No. It *was* an enforcement problem. The problem has been resolved
already
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 12:15 +0200, "José Luis Rivero (yoswink)" wrote:
> Games are not part of core system, so IMHO, use the ~arch branch to have
> the latest cool version to enjoy, could be a good way to go for those
> el1te gam3rs.
We actively discourage users from using ~arch for stable, sinc
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On Fri, 4 May 2007 18:30:02 +0200
Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is with prepalldocs? Is it allowed to use in ebuilds? Should it
> be in pms? Or is it just missing in prepall?
The prep* functions are Portage internals. They're not suitable for
ebuild use and shouldn't be in pms.
On Friday 04 May 2007, Torsten Veller wrote:
> What is with prepalldocs?
some people like to install files into /usr/share/doc/$PF/ and not have it be
compressed
> Is it allowed to use in ebuilds? Should it be in pms?
yes
> Or is it just missing in prepall?
no
-mike
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There are two bugs (140697,140699) saying that prepall and prepallman are
invoked automatically by portage.
Looking at prepall it calls:
prepallman
prepallinfo
prepallstrip
What is with prepalldocs? Is it allowed to use in ebuilds? Should it be in
pms? Or is it just missing in prepall?
Thanks.
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 04 May 2007, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
>> I also don't agree with having an exception for the games herd. As
>> others have questioned, how are games more important than security
>> bumps? If we were considering exceptions, I would argue that allowing
>> the
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On Friday 04 May 2007, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> I also don't agree with having an exception for the games herd. As
> others have questioned, how are games more important than security
> bumps? If we were considering exceptions, I would argue that allowing
> the security team to mark pack
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José Luis Rivero (yoswink) wrote:
> Roy Marples wrote:
>>
>> I maintain and play a game called Eternal Lands. I'm a Council member,
>> but not part of the games team/herd.
>>
>> One of the problems games have with stable/unstable/testing/whatever
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