Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Artwork

2007-04-29 Thread Christian Hartmann
> This year I'm thinking of just doing lightscribe media, much easier then > having to deal with labels, the don't come off and they don't wear out. We didn't have any problems with the printable media by Verbatim [1]. Well - of course you shouldn't shower them [2]. ;) Anyways. I just joined the

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:07:00 +0200 Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And as it was pointed out before. Static builds are not needed most > of the time. There is only 2 packages that actually need the static > libraries. The rest fails due to upstream bugs in the > configure/makefile (r

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Montag 30 April 2007 00:11 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:56:57 -0700 > > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone who wants to build a static binary wants the static libs. Given > > the difficulty in universally enabling or disabling their builds > > because of b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with 2.6 kernel maintenance

2007-04-29 Thread Ricardo Salveti
Hi Daniel, I talked with you quickly on the irc. I'm interested in helping gentoo with kernel related stuff. I have a base kernel knowledge, but in these last few days I've been reading lots of kernel related stuff, I got very interested on it and want to learn more about it. I generally have

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-04-29 23h59 UTC

2007-04-29 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-04-29 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-perl/Newt 2007-04-24 22:29:27 mcummings dev-java/eclipse-core 2007-04-25 15:34:37 betelgeuse dev-java/ec

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Artwork

2007-04-29 Thread Daniel Ostrow
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 22:04 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 11:28 +0200, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > It would be nice if there where some CD/DVD labels created, that people > > could print and put on their

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:56:57 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone who wants to build a static binary wants the static libs. Given > the difficulty in universally enabling or disabling their builds > because of build-system differences, building them and tossing them > in the tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Rémi Cardona wrote: > Since I don't have any thing other than Gentoo : does anyone know how > other distros handle static libs in their -dev packages? Does anyone > care about static libs except for maybe really really low level stuff? Anyone who wants to build a static binary wants the static lib

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Rémi Cardona
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:54:12 +0200 > "Jakub Moc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 4/29/07, Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'm now using gentoo with EXTRA_ECONF="--disable-static" for a >>> while and it seems quite stable. Sometimes I encounter a package >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Olivier Crête
On Sun, 2007-29-04 at 20:36 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:31:52 +0200 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An alternative that doesn't rely on autotools would be using > > INSTALL_MASK. > > Doesn't solve the "packages take twice as long to compile as they > should

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:31:52 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An alternative that doesn't rely on autotools would be using > INSTALL_MASK. Doesn't solve the "packages take twice as long to compile as they should" issue. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signatur

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:04:07 +0200 Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Sonntag 29 April 2007 20:46 schrieb paul kölle: > > Roman Zimmermann wrote: > > > (without the ugly EXTRA_ECONF-hack)? > > > > I wonder why you call this an ugly hack? It seems to me everyone who > > wishes to avoi

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Sonntag 29 April 2007 20:46 schrieb paul kölle: > Roman Zimmermann wrote: > > (without the ugly EXTRA_ECONF-hack)? > > I wonder why you call this an ugly hack? It seems to me everyone who > wishes to avoid installing static libs is able to do so with a simple > variable. Having such a feature ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread paul kölle
Roman Zimmermann wrote: > So I'm with Ciaran here: It works for almost all packages and makes at least > some difference. Maybe enough to (really) give the users the choice (without > the ugly EXTRA_ECONF-hack)? I wonder why you call this an ugly hack? It seems to me everyone who wishes to avoid

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Sonntag 29 April 2007 19:50 schrieb Marius Mauch: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:43:29 +0200 > > Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those links Jakub posted are interesting, but I don't find an > > explanation why this decission was made. Maybe you have a link to > > that discussion too?

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:50:58 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:43:29 +0200 > Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those links Jakub posted are interesting, but I don't find an > > explanation why this decission was made. Maybe you have a link to > > t

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:43:29 +0200 Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those links Jakub posted are interesting, but I don't find an > explanation why this decission was made. Maybe you have a link to > that discussion too? What decision? That USE=static shouldn't be used for (not) inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Sonntag 29 April 2007 12:36 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:54:12 +0200 > > "Jakub Moc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/29/07, Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm now using gentoo with EXTRA_ECONF="--disable-static" for a > > > while and it seems quite sta

[gentoo-dev] Looking for help with 2.6 kernel maintenance

2007-04-29 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm looking to find one or more people to help out with gentoo-sources-2.6 maintenance (our primary supported kernel). I'm looking for someone with at least: - Interest in kernel stuff, or a desire to become interested - Time to put towards the tasks - Enthusiasm to ask lots of question

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-sound/jsynthlib

2007-04-29 Thread federico
William L. Thomson Jr. ha scritto: > Last rites for media-sound/jsynthlib > > Last upstream release was 0.20-beta, released March, 2005. > > The package has been masked, and will be moved to Java junkyard overlay > after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about this package, needs it, > uses it, an

[gentoo-dev] Virtuals and Java

2007-04-29 Thread Petteri Räty
We want to implement virtuals for Java at some point and for that we need to know the package that provides the virtual because some virtuals can be provided by the JDK or normal packages and this affects the JDK selection at build time. One option is to call into Portage to find this out, but of c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-gfx/opcion

2007-04-29 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Last rites for media-gfx/opcion > > Last upstream release was 1.1.1, released April 24, 2004. > > The package has been masked, and will be moved to Java junkyard overlay > after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:54:12 +0200 "Jakub Moc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/29/07, Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm now using gentoo with EXTRA_ECONF="--disable-static" for a > > while and it seems quite stable. Sometimes I encounter a package > > that won't build with this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:00:08 PM Dominique Michel wrote: > Another fact remain: theology is about religion when genealogy > is about sciences. Theology *is* a science. Anyway, gramps is no longer part of the theology herd. Can we drop this now? Best regards, Wulf pgpvhWvMjUbRS.pgp Desc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:27:47 + (UTC), Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Dominique Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 28 Apr 2007 > 18:32:50 +0200: > > > I disagree. When searching for a software to do a given job and when I > > have no idea o

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:25:46 -0700, Josh Saddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Nathan Smith wrote: > > On 4/28/07, Rémi Cardona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Josh Sled wrote: > >> > >> > If that's the case, might not "humanities" be a better name? > >> > >> s/theology/humanities/ sounds good.

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Jakub Moc
On 4/29/07, Roman Zimmermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm now using gentoo with EXTRA_ECONF="--disable-static" for a while and it seems quite stable. Sometimes I encounter a package that won't build with this setting, but that's a rare occasion. At the moment this packages are for me: dev-libs/

[gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-29 Thread Roman Zimmermann
I'm now using gentoo with EXTRA_ECONF="--disable-static" for a while and it seems quite stable. Sometimes I encounter a package that won't build with this setting, but that's a rare occasion. At the moment this packages are for me: x11-libs/libXxf86vm sys-devel/gdb-6.6 dev-libs/jrtplib-3.5.2 dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Rémi Cardona
Josh Saddler wrote: > It would only be called "humanities" if it was also trying to include > gramps (geneology) with the other 7 packages which are explicitly > religious in nature. As beandog has already said, gramps has been > removed from the herd. I had missed that part in the other threads.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Artwork

2007-04-29 Thread Jakub Moc
On 4/29/07, William L. Thomson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 11:28 +0200, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It would be nice if there where some CD/DVD labels created, that people > could print and put on their LiveCDs/Insta