Hi,
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:47:46 +0200
Thomas Rösner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Other things I want from Gentoo right now depend on factors other
than the package manager, too; prebuilt packages
A package manager that supports a better binary package format
(s
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Seemant Kulleen wrote:
>> I wasn't indicating that a "popularity" contest should be held,
>> because I trust the developers will cast their vote only after
>> *technically* evaluating the options. I also don't think it's fair
>> for a small minor
See above: not every developer is technically capable of evaluating
the
underpinnings of the tools we use. For most of us, those
underpinnings
do not matter.
I find the reasoning to be quite justified.
It's probably a little early to initiate such a proposal, seeing as
the
PMS is stil
> I fail to understand why the portage developers would refuse to
> accept a patch that actually improves something (without causing
> major regressions i.e.). If they do refuse such a patch (for
> political reasons), then we have a serious problem. However, based on
> past experience with
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0530
> Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530
>> > Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo
>> >> be
Hi Seemant,
On 30-Mar-07, at 6:28 AM, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
Historical reasons aren't necessarily the correct reasons. I'd almost
say that your sentence has officially heralded the age of
Debianisation.
There are practical reasons too. Like the fact that all of our users
are now using po
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:55:18PM +0300, Bilanchuk Vitaly wrote:
> > Use the library provided by the lspci package, that is what it is there
> > for.
>
> Ok, thanks for you time.
>
> > What's wrong with using these interfaces? You can use sysfs and proc
> > from a C/C++ program just fine...
>
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:52:29PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> ?? Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:02:34PM +0300, Bilanchuk Vitaly wrote:
> >> Who knows how can I get information about pci-device (for example, vendor
> >> and
> >> name of network card) wit
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 03:07 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote:
> Sure it's not ideal and I acknowledge that. But portage is tied very
> closely to Gentoo for historical reasons, and it is not reasonable to
> expect an alternate package manager to replace it (not in the near
> future atleast).
Hi
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:03 -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> Ned Ludd wrote:
> > The correct reply should of been.
> > "I'm sorry I did not mean to offend anybody. I'll make an effort to not
> > make any cheap shots"
> >
> Man, stop playing the silly "Ooh, we are all so fragile and off
On 29-Mar-07, at 11:20 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Have a look at [1] and all the open "Portage should..." bugs. Would
any of those improve the user experience for you? Can you think of
other features of a similar nature that would make your life easier?
That Portage works does not mean that it is
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:47:46 +0200
Thomas Rösner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Other things I want from Gentoo right now depend on factors other
> than the package manager, too; prebuilt packages
A package manager that supports a better binary package format
(split out local metadata would be a goo
Ned Ludd wrote:
> The correct reply should of been.
> "I'm sorry I did not mean to offend anybody. I'll make an effort to not
> make any cheap shots"
>
Man, stop playing the silly "Ooh, we are all so fragile and offendable
game".
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:33:31 -0700
Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The correct reply should of been.
> "I'm sorry I did not mean to offend anybody. I'll make an effort to
> not make any cheap shots"
That would have been a possible response. Another reasonable response
would have been the o
Hi,
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Have a look at [1] and all the open "Portage should..." bugs. Would
any of those improve the user experience for you? Can you think of
other features of a similar nature that would make your life easier?
Funny thing is: the only thing that I'd really care about ar
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:02 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:25:00 -0700
> Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You are being dismissive of the hard work others are doing. I find
> > that downright offensive. You want to write a kickass package manager
> > then by all means
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:25:00 -0700
Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are being dismissive of the hard work others are doing. I find
> that downright offensive. You want to write a kickass package manager
> then by all means do it. But trying to make yourself look good by
> making others loo
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 20:06 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:57:36 -0700
> Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and
> > > it's not a very good one...
> >
> > Can you please stop taking cheap pot shots every ch
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:57:36 -0700
Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and
> > it's not a very good one...
>
> Can you please stop taking cheap pot shots every chance you get. We
> all get it. You are not a fan of portage.
And that
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 09:56 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530
> Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 28-Mar-07, at 1:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > Do you acknowledge that Portage is a severe limiting factor when it
> > > comes to improving the Gen
· Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:02:34PM +0300, Bilanchuk Vitaly wrote:
>> Who knows how can I get information about pci-device (for example, vendor
>> and
>> name of network card) without using /proc and /sys systems?
>
> Seems you are looking for lspci from t
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:55 +0300, Bilanchuk Vitaly wrote:
> > Use the library provided by the lspci package, that is what it is there
> > for.
>
> Ok, thanks for you time.
>
> > What's wrong with using these interfaces? You can use sysfs and proc
> > from a C/C++ program just fine...
>
> sysfs
> Use the library provided by the lspci package, that is what it is there
> for.
Ok, thanks for you time.
> What's wrong with using these interfaces? You can use sysfs and proc
> from a C/C++ program just fine...
sysfs and proc can be unexisting.
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0530
Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530
> > Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo
> >> because of
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Bilanchuk Vitaly napisał(a):
>> emerge pciutils and use lspci. This question would be better asked in
>> our user oriented support channels like #gentoo or gentoo-user mailing
>> list.
>
> I'm sorry.
> I need get info using C/C++.
>
> I know lspci us
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:04:33PM +0300, Bilanchuk Vitaly wrote:
>
> > emerge pciutils and use lspci. This question would be better asked in
> > our user oriented support channels like #gentoo or gentoo-user mailing
> > list.
>
> I'm sorry.
> I need get info using C/C++.
Use the library provide
On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530
Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo
because of portage. Portage is a core part of our distro, and I
don't see it being replaced for a long tim
> emerge pciutils and use lspci. This question would be better asked in
> our user oriented support channels like #gentoo or gentoo-user mailing
> list.
I'm sorry.
I need get info using C/C++.
I know lspci using 4 methods in Linux - linux_sysfs, linux_proc, intel_conf1,
intel_conf2 (man 8 lspci
Steve Long wrote:
This is perfectly reasonable where it is a card with drivers in both, but
alas-drivers supports a broader range of hardware, eg the echo audio cards
(guess who has one ;) which have never been available in-kernel.
These were added to the kernel as of 2.6.18.
But it is still a
+# Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Mar 2007)
+# -Last upstream release in 2003
+# -Not migrated to use from source sun-jaf
+# -Does not support bzip2.
+# Use app-arch/tar instead or if you need a java library use
+# dev-java/commons-vfs. If you still use this for something, please mail
+# [EMA
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:02:34PM +0300, Bilanchuk Vitaly wrote:
> Who knows how can I get information about pci-device (for example, vendor and
> name of network card) without using /proc and /sys systems?
Seems you are looking for lspci from the package sys-apps/pciutils.
Btw, as this doesn't
Bilanchuk Vitaly kirjoitti:
> Hi, experts!
>
> Who knows how can I get information about pci-device (for example, vendor and
> name of network card) without using /proc and /sys systems?
>
> Thanks for your time!
emerge pciutils and use lspci. This question would be better asked in
our user ori
Have you tried lspci from the pciutils package?
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Hi, experts!
Who knows how can I get information about pci-device (for example, vendor and
name of network card) without using /proc and /sys systems?
Thanks for your time!
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Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2007 03:50 schrieb Steve Long:
> Daniel Drake wrote:
> > I have suggested that herd support for the kernelspace side
> > (alsa-driver) be slowly reduced, by redirecting users who file bugs
> > against it to reproduce with the in-kernel drivers, and then let
> > kernel handle
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:50 +0200, Christian Birchinger wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
If you read what you are quoting:
Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.
That's still almost a month + the time
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:50 +0200, Christian Birchinger wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> > If you read what you are quoting:
> >
> > >> Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.
>
> That's still almost a month + the time no secur
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:33:50 +0100
Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first public draft of PMS is open for comment. The PDF is at
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~spb/pms.pdf
Open issues that need to be addressed before submission to the Council
are at [1]. Comments are welcomed, so long as
>> Reading comparisons is one thing and using is the other. But the thing
>> is, gentoo ends up with central repository, anyway. Provided the
>> repository is less ancient than CVS (which is basically subversion),
>> distributed users can branch it without having to have commit access.
>> This hybr
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:23:49PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> If you read what you are quoting:
>
> >> Mozilla will drop support for that series from 24 April 2007 onwards.
That's still almost a month + the time no security issues
appear. This would be still better.
Christian
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Christian Birchinger kirjoitti:
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 05:03:37PM +0100, Raúl Porcel wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The mozilla team has decided that the
>> www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
>>from now (18 Mar 2007), that is 1 April 2007. And will be removed after
>> tw
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 05:03:37PM +0100, Raúl Porcel wrote:
>Hi,
>
>The mozilla team has decided that the
>www-client/mozilla-firefox[-bin]-1.5* series will get masked two weeks
>from now (18 Mar 2007), that is 1 April 2007. And will be removed after
>two weeks from that date, which will be 15 Apr
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530
Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28-Mar-07, at 1:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Do you acknowledge that Portage is a severe limiting factor when it
> > comes to improving the Gentoo user experience as a whole?
>
> I certainly don't think so. A l
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