[gentoo-dev] mplayer global use flag

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Dibb
If no one objects, I'd like to add an mplayer global USE flag to replace all the local ones. 5 ebuilds use it right now for all the same purpose, and I'm going to need one on mythvideo as well. Steve -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 08:17, Stuart Herbert wrote: > I think it'd be common sense to post -r1, -r2 etc, and extend the XML > syntax so that we could easily indicate which sentences had been > changed. well each GLEP itself has a version number ... we could just bump it and expect people to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Nathan Sullivan
i just noticed mx2.gentoo.org isnt responding on port 25, shouldnt it be? defeats the purpose of backup MX if its not respond :)CpuID.On 10/26/06, Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Wed Oct 25 2006, 11:17:09AM CDT]> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:48:57 -0500 Grant Goodyear <

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Alec Warner
Caleb Cushing wrote: reporting additions of new programs aren't feasible? or are you referring to version updates and package bumps and such Reporting removals will be done by treecleaners once I have it implemented. Reporting additions may require some cvs foo on lark; such as new direct

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 16:25 -0400, Caleb Cushing wrote: > reporting additions of new programs aren't feasible? or are you > referring to version updates and package bumps and such None of it is feasible if I'm left to do it by hand. I have much better things to do (like actually add new packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Caleb Cushing
reporting additions of new programs aren't feasible? or are you referring to version updates and package bumps and such -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:56 -0500, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > If you think this is a good idea, I'd be glad to write some scripts for > this. If you write all the code, I'll run it, but I'm not taking my time to track down all of the additions. The current removals is done by hand by some volunteer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 21:56, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > After seeing "Upcoming package removals", for couple of weeks now, in > GWN I'm beginning to think that I would like to see also a list of new > packages added to portage next to the list of packages to be removed. http://packages.gentoo.

[gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-25 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
Hello, After seeing "Upcoming package removals", for couple of weeks now, in GWN I'm beginning to think that I would like to see also a list of new packages added to portage next to the list of packages to be removed. This will give a better view on the actual state of portage tree, as well as, wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Matti 'mabi' Bickel

2006-10-25 Thread Matti Bickel
Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > It is my pleasure to announce the devification of Matti (mabi) Bickel to > the Gentoo community. Uh, that mail got lost in the mailflood somehow :| Anyway, thanks to everybody answering stupid question, generelly helping me big time here.

Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNUS : how I currently manage my gentoo network (200+ machines)

2006-10-25 Thread Hubert Mercier
Hi guys (and girls ;) ), And sorry for the long delay of my answer, I was very busy in the last few days. I just cleaned up (a bit) and uploaded my script, with a set of fake configs, in a nice .tgz file (1). Feel free to contact me if something is not clear enough (high probability since I di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Wed Oct 25 2006, 11:17:09AM CDT] > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:48:57 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | (Incidentally, I apologize for missing the meeting. I was in > | intensely boring radiation safety training.) > > Uh, isn't boring a good thing when it com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Vapier wrote: [Wed Oct 25 2006, 02:56:28AM CDT] > On Wednesday 25 October 2006 03:27, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > (As a second principle, if GLEP 39 is amended, wouldn't it be better > > to publish a new GLEP to superceed it, rather than revise the existing > > GLEP?) > > i think in general it depen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:48:57 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | (Incidentally, I apologize for missing the meeting. I was in | intensely boring radiation safety training.) Uh, isn't boring a good thing when it comes to things involving radiation? -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Chris, On 10/25/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the likely best way would be to do something like: [snip] Yeah, that works for me. Best regards, Stu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 13:17 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 10/25/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, I'd like to know what you would propose we do if we were to follow > > something like this. Would we post something like GLEP 39a, as an > > amendment to GLEP 39, or would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 10/25/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Council has already done so, with the addition of the final bullet point in Specification list B. Thanks for pointing that out. Best regards, Stu -- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Simon Stelling
Chris Gianelloni wrote: Realize that the new council is trying to both become the leaders of Gentoo that so many seem to want, yet also have to balance not overstepping the bounds some people think we need. We honestly do need everyone's opinions on these things, so thank you for posing yours.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Chris, On 10/25/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, let's make it simpler, then. Does it say anywhere in GLEP 39 that the elected Council cannot change it? Does it limit the council's powers in any way? No, it does not. That's why I've asked for a discussion of this as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Chris, On 10/25/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, I'd like to know what you would propose we do if we were to follow something like this. Would we post something like GLEP 39a, as an amendment to GLEP 39, or would we have to rewrite the whole thing, with just the one chan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:27:13 +0100 "Stuart Herbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | As such, as a point of principle, should the council be able to | change/override/replace the rules in GLEP 39 w/out putting it to a | vote of all Gentoo developers? The Council has already done so, with the addition

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 08:27 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > (As a second principle, if GLEP 39 is amended, wouldn't it be better > to publish a new GLEP to superceed it, rather than revise the existing > GLEP?) Also, I'd like to know what you would propose we do if we were to follow something like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 08:27 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > The current metastructure (as documented in GLEP 39) is a little > unusual; it's a proposal that was voted in by all Gentoo developers. > > As such, as a point of principle, should the council be able to > change/override/replace the rules

Re: [gentoo-dev] amd64 and ia64 keywords

2006-10-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:36:04 -0400 Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ia64 is for itanium, which was > intel's horrid first attempt at a 64-bit successor to x86. I wouldn't call Itanium a successor to x86, any more than SPARC was (recall that early Sun boxes were x86). As you mentioned

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Francesco Riosa
Simon Stelling ha scritto: > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> (how do you measure the degree of a change ?) > > By the number of inflammatory mails it causes within the timeframe of > two weekdays. Quite obvious, isn't it? ;) > No also by who/howmany start the biggest number of inflammatory mails ... but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Stelling wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> (how do you measure the degree of a change ?) > > By the number of inflammatory mails it causes within the timeframe of > two weekdays. Quite obvious, isn't it? ;) > ok, lemme just shutdown email for t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Simon Stelling
Mike Frysinger wrote: (how do you measure the degree of a change ?) By the number of inflammatory mails it causes within the timeframe of two weekdays. Quite obvious, isn't it? ;) -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect module for choosing between gnash and netscape-flash

2006-10-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 21 October 2006 08:38, David Leverton wrote: > (Sorry if this is a dupe. I tried sending it before, but it seems to > have disappeared into /dev/null.) nah, it made it through (ive got a copy) ... i bet the mailing list shit a brick though which is why you didnt see it ... ive taken

[gentoo-dev] eselect module for choosing between gnash and netscape-flash

2006-10-25 Thread David Leverton
Hi, (Sorry if this is a dupe. I tried sending it before, but it seems to have disappeared into /dev/null.) I wrote an eselect module for choosing between the browser plugins from net-www/gnash and net-www/netscape-flash, and I was wondering if it could be included in Gentoo (probably not in its

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 03:27, Stuart Herbert wrote: > As such, as a point of principle, should the council be able to > change/override/replace the rules in GLEP 39 w/out putting it to a > vote of all Gentoo developers? sort of like the president rewriting the rules that control his own powe

[gentoo-dev] Re: Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Tach Stuart, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Stuart Herbert schrieb: > (As a second principle, if GLEP 39 is amended, wouldn't it be better to > publish a new GLEP to superceed it, rather than revise the existing > GLEP?) GLEP 39a? V-Li -- Fingerprint: 68C5 D381 B69A

[gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, On 10/25/06, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Danny van Dyk wrote: > Design phase for new projects: New projects need to post an RFC >containing information about their goals, the plan on how to >implement their goals and the necessary resources to -dev prior to >creat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove my address

2006-10-25 Thread Alin Nastac
David Shakaryan wrote: > George Prowse wrote: > >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:53, Drake Wyrm wrote: >>> I think someone is yanking your chain, vapier. >>> i doubt it ... other people on irc mentioned receiving said e-mail as >>> we