On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:05:52PM -0800, Corey Shields wrote:
> Where is the centralized vision that everyone is working together here that
> people not directly related to each project will buy in to and therefore do
> what they can to see it succeed?
We've had centralized visions for a long w
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 04:31:30 + Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| We haven't done anything interesting or innovative over
| the last...year?
Codswallop. We've done lots of large, innovative changes. You've just
not been paying enough attention to have seen them, and the people
doing the c
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Kurt Lieber wrote:
| On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 12:39:05AM -0500 or thereabouts, Alec Warner
wrote:
|>The Gentoo Installer is an interesting project, not only for the
|>graphical frontend, but for the Distro-sponsored Network installer that
|>is being wo
[snip]
> Thanks for your comments.. As for management, anyone who reads "Five
> Dysfunctions of a Team" by Patrick Lencioni[1] will see all of the problems
> that Gentoo has, as well as the potential Gentoo has if it worked well.
[/snip]
OK granted it is a shameless plug, but this book is so o
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 21:39, Alec Warner wrote:
> I think some people have attempted things that are interesting or
> innovative, although they may not have gotten off of the ground quite
> yet. I think for instance, that Stuart's webapp-config project is a
> good idea, and while I also th
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 12:39:05AM -0500 or thereabouts, Alec Warner wrote:
> I think some people have attempted things that are interesting or
> innovative, although they may not have gotten off of the ground quite
> yet.
That's the problem. Lots of folks have great ideas. Our execution sucks,
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Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:57:06PM -0800 or thereabouts, Greg KH wrote:
>
>>>Which is why Gentoo has jumped the shark and is now on a long, slow
>>>decline.
>>
>>Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline?
>
>
Lares Moreau wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 18:19 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote:
My point is, either you have to generalize each project's goal to a real
triviality or you have to define a goal which doesn't match some
project's goals. Conclusion: Let it be.
Maybe we are looking at this
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:57:06PM -0800 or thereabouts, Greg KH wrote:
> > Which is why Gentoo has jumped the shark and is now on a long, slow
> > decline.
>
> Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline?
Exactly what a lot of folks will have kittens about; appoint a CEO, leader
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:58:57AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
> wrote:
> > Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than
> > a loosely bound group of developers all doing their own thing in a
> > c
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:59:04PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > It installs itself for all versions of Python that are on the
> > system.
> I don't fully understand the magic how it finds all Python versions,
> but can this be applied to other packages?
It can and it is. Can't recall offhand whi
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni
wrote:
> Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than
> a loosely bound group of developers all doing their own thing in a
> collaborative and collective manner. You cannot use corporate thinking
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:37:31PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> If internationalization is a primary goal of the GLEP, then I'd suggest
> simply changing the Last-Modified field to a manual one and having folks
> input it directly. If the primary goal is simply to make sure machines can
> parse the
It's unmaintained and has been in p.mask since birth. I'll remove it from
the tree in a week unless someone wants to step in and take over.
See also http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60464
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:06:37PM +0100 or thereabouts, Henrik Brix Andersen
wrote:
> Well, CVS doesn't use neither -mm-dd nor the currently used
> format, so the conversion must be done in a commit-hook or
> similar.
>
> Perhaps our friendly neighbor Infra knows where this is done?
It just
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:05:03AM -0600, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> I doubt that GLEP 45 really needs a vote by the full council. The lead
> GLEP editor's decision should probably suffice for something this
> trivial. (Recall that the GLEP process is that the GLEP author let's
> the GLEP editors kn
Duncan wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:34:42 +:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:26:44 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| That begs the question...
No it doesn't.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.html
Forget formal logic,
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 20:59 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 09:13 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:45:22PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > > Now I'm wondering - is there a sane way of handling this that doesn't
> > > forcefully remove python 2.4?
> >
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 09:13 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:45:22PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > Now I'm wondering - is there a sane way of handling this that doesn't
> > forcefully remove python 2.4?
> > e.g. could python modules be installed to multiple python versi
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:34:42 +:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:26:44 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | That begs the question...
>
> No it doesn't.
>
> http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.html
Forget formal logic, it still
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 09:04 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
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> Patrick Lauer wrote:
> | Hi all,
> |
> | I recently ran into an interesting problem:
> |
> | One app I have seems to trigger a bug in Python 2.4, so I want to use it
> | with Python 2.3
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Patrick Lauer wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| I recently ran into an interesting problem:
|
| One app I have seems to trigger a bug in Python 2.4, so I want to use it
| with Python 2.3
| But, as it imports a few python modules I can't use it - the modules
| only
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:45:22PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Now I'm wondering - is there a sane way of handling this that doesn't
> forcefully remove python 2.4?
> e.g. could python modules be installed to multiple python versions? How
> do others (ruby, perl, ...) handle it? For the moment I'
Hi all,
I recently ran into an interesting problem:
One app I have seems to trigger a bug in Python 2.4, so I want to use it
with Python 2.3
But, as it imports a few python modules I can't use it - the modules
only get installed to the most recent Python version.
From a portage dependency p.o.v
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 16:36 +0100, bibi.skuk.list wrote:
> Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 à 10:00 +0100, Thierry Carrez a écrit :
> > cdrx is unmaintained upstream for a few years now, does not have a
> > Gentoo maintainer, and now it has a security issue :
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cg
Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 à 10:00 +0100, Thierry Carrez a écrit :
> cdrx is unmaintained upstream for a few years now, does not have a
> Gentoo maintainer, and now it has a security issue :
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108072
>
> If nobody steps up to maintain and fix it, it will
Duncan wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
> below, on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:44:18 +:
>
>
>>On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:32:44 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>| Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 09:16 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:
>>| > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:26:44 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| That begs the question...
No it doesn't.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.html
| Curious users want to know!
Perhaps said curious users should go and take a look, then.
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Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:44:18 +:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:32:44 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 09:16 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:
> | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > | So my questi
Wow, thanks Dirk for bringing this up, but no thatnks for rushing - I haven't
got my prototype ebuilds and eclass workign yet :). Well, I did somewhat, but
not to the point where it would really, um, work..
Anyway, since this was brought up, I think I would do that -dev posting, to
announce pro
cdrx is unmaintained upstream for a few years now, does not have a
Gentoo maintainer, and now it has a security issue :
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108072
If nobody steps up to maintain and fix it, it will be masked in 48 hours
prior to complete removal from Portage.
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Thierry Carr
Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 09:44 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:
> GCC does not have a nice clean build system, nor does it have a nice
> clean modular setup that allows you to pick and choose language
> frontends (or arch backends) at anything other than compile time. It's
> just not designed to le
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:32:44 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 09:16 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:
| > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > | So my question is: Would it be a good idea to generally turn GCC
| > | into split ebuilds (like KDE/X.org)? Pros/Cons?
|
Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2006 09:16 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | So my question is: Would it be a good idea to generally turn GCC into
> | split ebuilds (like KDE/X.org)? Pros/Cons?
>
> Sure, that'd be nice. It's also impossible, but don't let that stop you
> from tr
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:47:00 +0100 Dirk Heinrichs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| So my question is: Would it be a good idea to generally turn GCC into
| split ebuilds (like KDE/X.org)? Pros/Cons?
Sure, that'd be nice. It's also impossible, but don't let that stop you
from trying.
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