Hi,
there has been a lengthy discussion on bugzilla ([1]), about the best
packaging method for the gnat Ada compiler. The outcome seems to be that
gnat will still have its own ebuild in the future and not be part of the
GCC ebuild. It also has a mention that gcj will eventually be split out
fr
On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 10:48:18PM +0100, Grobian wrote:
> On 01-01-2006 21:35:34 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions:
> > 1) bzip2 them in some way.
> 4) compress Changelog entries where possible
Anyone gathered transfer stats for rsync without --whole-file?
compression won't pla
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Greg KH wrote:
| On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 01:56:03PM +0530, Shyam Mani wrote:
|
|>[2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/modular-x-howto.xml
|
|
| You mean:
| http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
| right?
Yeah we decided to
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 01:56:03PM +0530, Shyam Mani wrote:
> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/modular-x-howto.xml
You mean:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
right?
thanks,
greg k-h
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On Tuesday 03 January 2006 19:13, Ricardo Loureiro wrote:
> If I encounter such situations should I create a bug or report them
> here?
either works
ive removed the entries
-mike
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Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Mark Loeser wrote:
> > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>I completely agree with you here. What Gentoo does is make a
> >>meta-distribution, that one can utilize to build their own distribution
> >>easily. This isn't limited to Linux, eithe
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Hi guys,
I've came across what happen to be an invalid virtual entry and an
invalid local use flag, since the packages they target are no longer
in the portage tree.
The entries are:
virtual/winkernel sys-kernel/win4lin-sources
media-sound/da
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I've actually been tinkering with this idea for a whole mostly due to
the gross amount of crazy crap that is posted to gentoo-wiki.com ( no
offense to the site which otherwise does a great job ). However I was
under the impression that the docs team w
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Tue Jan 03 2006, 12:17:06PM CST]
> I think part of the problem is that many people are forgetting exactly
> what Gentoo really is. Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo
> is not anything more than a loosely bound group of developers all doing
> their own thing in
Hi,
There'll be a monthly meeting of the webapps herd in #gentoo-web on
Saturday 7th Jan @ 19:00 UTC. All are welcome, whether you're a member
of the herd or not :) (Arch team members interested in stabilising
webapps are especially welcome)
The agenda at the moment is:
1) Elections
2) Update
Mark Loeser wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 04:08 -0700, Duncan wrote:
>>
>>>I believe that's where the differing opinions begin to come in. Here's
>>>mine. I don't believe that Gentoo, /as/ /Gentoo/, will ever be very
>>>successful as an Enterprise
Lance Albertson wrote: [Tue Jan 03 2006, 02:09:43PM CST]
> Sure, we've made lots of great improvements, but I'm concerned that we
> have too many subprojects all working in their little world and no one
> really looking over the whole project making sure things flow together
> well. There's no one
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 04:08 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> > I believe that's where the differing opinions begin to come in. Here's
> > mine. I don't believe that Gentoo, /as/ /Gentoo/, will ever be very
> > successful as an Enterprise distribution, and I don'
I know I'm one of the new ones, and I shouldn't be complaining for this, but
people please, pretty please, check what you remove out of p.mask.. if it was
masked, there was probably a reason, check carefully before unmasking.
Remember that when you get something out of p.mask, all users in ~arch
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:35 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> More structure and less red tape ... How do those two work together? I
> feel like they're connected -- a more structured organization will have
> more bureaucracy and more red tape.
To me red tape means that there are odd and peculiar st
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Lance Albertson wrote:
| All of those of course are true. I guess I'm thinking more in the large
| picture of things. Retiring non-active devs isn't something I'd exactly
| call 'ground breaking' :-). I know there are things being worked on now
| that
thanks for the feedback.
I agree - the gentoo build is excellent. It's only to meet with our legal
obligations.
That legal obligation arises from our non-GPL C app which links against
libmysqlclient.
Do you know if it would be enough to deploy and use the gentoo build of mysql
but with
our softw
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 02:33:13PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > But what about helping by "working on an official Gentoo release"?
Having somebody around to help test LiveCDs and stages is always a good
thing. We need both developers and users to do this as the architecture
coordinator can a
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Simon Stelling wrote:
| Donnie Berkholz wrote:
|> - - Releng would work to ensure that installing Gentoo is as easy as
|> possible.
|
|
| This is very vague too. Easy for who? Easy for a user who is too lazy to
| read docs and doesn't have any experie
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote: [Mon Jan 02 2006, 12:14:05PM CST]
>
>>Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
>>Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
>>changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I know there has
>>been great s
>> start of this year and investigated the options for commercial support of
>> mysql
>> under gentoo at that time. This investigation included attending the mysql
>> 2004 user conference and talking to several decision makers within mysql
Oops. Should be last year, and 2005 user conference.
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
| As a prime example, I strongly believe that making Gentoo "as easy as
| possible" can only come about by reducing its usability. If there is a
| large number of choices, no matter how well documented, it isn't easy
| for a b
Steve,
>>
>> so unless it's of real use to others I might just continue to support it
>> myself.
>> I'm already packaging up other internal apps using a portage overlay.
>>
I had several clients deploying mysql server clusters in large webfarms at the
start of this year and investigated the op
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 20:25, Luis F. Araujo wrote:
> >Portage does not resolve block correctly, look at bugzilla there are tons
> > of bugs open.
>
> So i suppose we should avoid using this kind of notation whenever possible.
See, it's not possible to avoid that with the current Portage vers
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 20:25, Luis F. Araujo wrote:
> So i suppose we should avoid using this kind of notation whenever possible.
Or you can try to fix portage.
> Which dep?
xpdf.
poppler does _not_ require xpdf.
!< allows to avoid installing older xpdf and newer poppler at the same time
if yo
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 04:00 +0900, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:
> [unsnip]
> >>> BTW, will next release use catalyst or catalyst2?
> [/unsnip]
>
> So?
We will be using catalyst 2.0 (or better).
> But what about helping by "working on an official Gentoo release"?
Learn catalyst intricately. The main
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 04:30, Luis F. Araujo wrote:
Now if i change to >=app-text/xpdf-3.01-r4 , it works just fine.
But you significantly change its meaning.
I am not sure what it is happening here though... is the !< notation
broken?
Por
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:21:39PM +0100, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> There are some interesting ideas on the Gentoo Forums that aren't situated
> in any of the current projects, such as "Top-100 Feature Requests" [1],
> "Gentoo
> Binary profile" [2], "Gentoo Knowledge Base" [3], "USE-flag triggered
>
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 12:14:05PM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Since the council is the closest representation to a leader we have, I'd
> like to ask if they can come up with some kind of global goals for 2006
> and beyond.
I couldn't agree more, yet I'm afraid Gentoo has grown too large to d
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 11:05 -0500, Rajiv Aaron Manglani wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So what about the first problem? Working, real configs for gentoo releases?
>>> I am thinking
>>> something of the kind, will it be possible/good/e
I don't mind maintaining it though on amd64 if it would be of use.
This will be maintained by me anyway internally - would it be useful to sign up
as a developer?
There are other apps I have been building ebuilds for - such as ChartDirector -
another
commercial app - which I could contribute too.
so unless it's of real use to others I might just continue to support it myself.
I'm already packaging up other internal apps using a portage overlay.
FYI - if you deploy an app which is non-gpl which links against mysql libs then
you need to deploy against a commercial version of mysql.
this is b
Jakub Moc wrote:
[...]
> Dunno what exactly "commercial" means here, it you mean official -bin,
> there's some overlay and ebuilds in Bug 83424, there's also some weird
[...]
Please forget that one, it's broken, and the quantity and the size of
the binary packages to download make an hell to maint
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 09:28 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
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> Simon Stelling wrote:
> | My point is, either you have to generalize each project's goal to a real
> | triviality or you have to define a goal which doesn't match some
> | project's goal
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Not necessarily. I just wrote on my blog [1] about this, and got a
constructive comment [2], which I'll talk a little about.
Here's one example of a global goal: Reduce the learning curve of Gentoo
and increase its usability.
Sounds like a good idea, but as Ciaran alread
3.1.2006, 18:54:07, Steve Rodgers wrote:
> Hi does anyone have any experience of deploying mysql commercial build into a
> gentoo platform?
> Several mysql dependencies such as php will need to have the ebuild slot
> there so I guess it's
> up to me to maintain an overlay equivalent that provi
Steve Rodgers wrote:
It isn't very clear to what it needed here but I'll try to answer anyway
> Hi does anyone have any experience of deploying mysql commercial build into a
> gentoo platform?
not me, but I use the gpl version for commercial scopes
>
> Several mysql dependencies such as php w
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 18:19 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote:
> My point is, either you have to generalize each project's goal to a real
> triviality or you have to define a goal which doesn't match some
> project's goals. Conclusion: Let it be.
Maybe we are looking at this problem the wrong way. In
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:28:24 -0800 Donnie Berkholz
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| | Here's one example of a global goal: Reduce the learning curve of
| | Gentoo and increase its usability.
|
| That goal is silly and oxymoronic
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 00:35 +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote:
>> On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
>>> We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, > 25 MB totally .
>>> 1365 == 13% with size >= 4096 B, 12 MB totally
[...]
> be benificial. The only ques
Hi does anyone have any experience of deploying mysql commercial build into a
gentoo platform?
Several mysql dependencies such as php will need to have the ebuild slot there
so I guess it's
up to me to maintain an overlay equivalent that provides the same as the
portage ebuild?
Does this exist
On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:28:24 -0800 Donnie Berkholz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Here's one example of a global goal: Reduce the learning curve of
| Gentoo and increase its usability.
That goal is silly and oxymoronic. Reduced learning curve decreases
usability.
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Simon Stelling wrote:
| My point is, either you have to generalize each project's goal to a real
| triviality or you have to define a goal which doesn't match some
| project's goals. Conclusion: Let it be.
Not necessarily. I just wrote on my blog [1]
Hi,
Lares Moreau wrote:
need to have some form of Governance board. A board that doesn't worry
about implementation details; a board that gives a long term vision to
our project.
This sounds very scary to me. Perhaps that's because I'm not sure how
detailed such a plan would be. If our goal i
3.1.2006, 17:34:46, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote:
> Is there a metabug where we can keep track of all the GCC 4 bugs?
> If so, what bug # ?
Sure - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117482
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Lance Albertson wrote: [Mon Jan 02 2006, 12:14:05PM CST]
> Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
> Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
> changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I know there has
> been great strides in improvement in so
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On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 11:05 -0500, Rajiv Aaron Manglani wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:
>
> > So what about the first problem? Working, real configs for gentoo releases?
> > I am thinking something of the kind, will it be possible/good/easy to start
> > preparing a few config
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Dirk Heinrichs skrev:
> Am Montag, 2. Januar 2006 21:45 schrieb ext Mark Loeser:
>
>
>>Actually, since I plan on moving this to ~arch soon, please report all
>>bugs to us, even if you don't have a patch. I'd like to know of
>>everything that is brok
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:
So what about the first problem? Working, real configs for gentoo releases?
I am thinking something of the kind, will it be possible/good/easy to start
preparing a few configs
for the next release (2006.0 right?), complete configs starting from say
s
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [Sun Jan 01 2006, 05:35:26PM CST]
> On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 05:30:01AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
> > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
> > Gentoo dev list to see.
>
Some time ago I sent a mail with the above subject and there was no response...
Now I saw it went to
the gentoo-server ML :-( /me bad
So, resending some thoughts about catalyst here...
So far I have played with catalyst, lately catalyst2, since gentoo-1.4 was
released. AFAIR, 3 or 4
times. More
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 12:15 -0600, Paul Varner wrote:
> > since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
> > (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
> > it and post any feedback they have with it ? it should mostly be a
> > bugfix release over 1.11.
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:29, Paweł Madej wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I still think the idea of simply RSYNC_EXCLUDEing the
> > ChangeLog by default would be a much better solution.
>
> I didn't know befor
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I'm sorry, but I still think the idea of simply RSYNC_EXCLUDEing the
ChangeLog by default would be a much better solution.
I didn't know before that it is possible, but after some reading man
rsync I've added *
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 04:08 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> Patrick Lauer posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
> below, on Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:52:43 +0100:
>
> Lance Albertson wrote:
> >> When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at",
> >> I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There
Am Montag, 2. Januar 2006 21:45 schrieb ext Mark Loeser:
> Actually, since I plan on moving this to ~arch soon, please report all
> bugs to us, even if you don't have a patch. I'd like to know of
> everything that is broken.
I filed bug reports for crypto++, botan, monotone and isdn4k-utils. Sti
3.1.2006, 12:47:27, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> So you have now taken what was described as an automatic solution to
> reduce size into a manual process, reducing usability of the ChangeLog
> and increasing workload for every ebuild developer.
> I'm sorry, but I still think the idea of simply RSY
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 00:35 +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote:
> On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> > We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, > 25 MB totally .
> > 1365 == 13% with size >= 4096 B, 12 MB totally
> >
> > rsync from "emerge --sync" has "--whole-file" between i
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 13:20 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > I don't see a problem with removing version bump and stabilization
> > messages, but everything else should stay in the ChangeLog for as long
> > as the package is still around.
>
> See the part that I said "make sense to take out". Wha
Patrick Lauer posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:52:43 +0100:
Lance Albertson wrote:
>> When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at",
>> I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There isn't
>> another distro out there that does it as well as us
Lance Albertson wrote:
> Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
> Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
> changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I know there has
> been great strides in improvement in some things, but I really wonder
>
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