On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:40:35PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Saturday 24 December 2005 05:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 03:37 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:23, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > > > On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCr
Sven Vermeulen wrote:
Hi all
It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to step
down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead.
I can't believe this. I am very sad. Swift is my mentor and one of a few
people whos work inspired me to donate my time to Gentoo to be
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:50:33 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| SLOT is currently an arbitrary string (without spaces) so general
| matching of "*" might be useful. Of course, there's no restriction of
| not using "*" in SLOTs at the moment either...
*shrug* SLOT will have to be tight
On Saturday 24 December 2005 10:25, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:04:32 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | kde-libs/kde:3
> | ^^^ need any kde, with slotting enabled.
> |
> | kde-libs/kde:3,4
> | ^^^ need any kde, slotting 3 or 4.
I'd prefer to not have this l
On Friday 23 December 2005 16:29, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> I've been meaning to get it into guidexml and make it a real project doc
> for a while now (and the accompanying porting guide), but haven't had
> time. Anybody who wants to help out by doing this is quite welcome to do
> so.
>
Here's one I
On Saturday 24 December 2005 05:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 03:37 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:23, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > > On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:57:44 +0100 Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 23 December 2005 15:52, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 18:35, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > Just to add. This is not so much related to debugging information in the
> > library files (what gdb can use). That information never makes it from
> > disk so is not tha
On Sunday 11 December 2005 18:02, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Okay now that virtual/x11 introduced the new generation's virtuals, the
> decision of waiting to have virtuals for iconv and libintl can be
> considered concluded, and we might start adding them, right? :D
I'm still waiting for o
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:04:32 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| kde-libs/kde:3
| ^^^ need any kde, with slotting enabled.
|
| kde-libs/kde:3,4
| ^^^ need any kde, slotting 3 or 4.
Will foo-bar/baz:3* or foo-bar/baz:3.* work?
--
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you wi
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:30:09PM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 21:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> > Erm.. No, I don't think he is. We've been asking / waiting for the
> > [use] syntax to appear since before you joined the project. It's been on
> > "the list" for so long
Joshua Baergen wrote:
As many of you no doubt have noticed, spyderous and I finished bumping
the modular packages to the newly released 7.0, which includes many
changes and bug fixes since 6.8.2. Over the next few weeks we'll be
finalizing licenses and other necessities. To whoever has been u
Greg KH wrote:
For those of us who want to try modular now, where's the pointer to how
to do this (I can't seem to find it in the archives, sorry...)
I've been meaning to get it into guidexml and make it a real project doc
for a while now (and the accompanying porting guide), but haven't had
Roy Marples wrote:
On Friday 23 December 2005 20:17, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
On Friday 23 December 2005 16:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to
step down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead.
May I with this ema
On Friday 23 December 2005 18:35, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> Just to add. This is not so much related to debugging information in the
> library files (what gdb can use). That information never makes it from disk
> so is not that much of a speed issue (esp. if it is split out).
Actually, if the binarie
On Friday 23 December 2005 23:50, Greg KH wrote:
> For those of us who want to try modular now, where's the pointer to how
> to do this (I can't seem to find it in the archives, sorry...)
google for <> :)
--
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Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/Fre
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/migrating_to_modular_x_howto.txt
followed it this morning :)
On 12/23/05, Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 03:40:57PM -0700, Joshua Baergen wrote:
> > As many of you no doubt have noticed, spyderous and I finished bumping
> > th
On Friday 23 December 2005 16:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> Hi all
>
> It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to step
> down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead.
I just want to say thank you very much for the outstanding work you (and the
rest of the GDP-team)
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 03:40:57PM -0700, Joshua Baergen wrote:
> As many of you no doubt have noticed, spyderous and I finished bumping
> the modular packages to the newly released 7.0, which includes many
> changes and bug fixes since 6.8.2. Over the next few weeks we'll be
> finalizing licen
As many of you no doubt have noticed, spyderous and I finished bumping
the modular packages to the newly released 7.0, which includes many
changes and bug fixes since 6.8.2. Over the next few weeks we'll be
finalizing licenses and other necessities. To whoever has been using
modular for awhil
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:33:13 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| - Checkout time of a full new tree (no load, and with load)
Do we really care about this? SVN will do really really badly here, but
does it matter?
| - Concurrency performance (how do multiple simultaneous commits and
On Friday 23 December 2005 21:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> Erm.. No, I don't think he is. We've been asking / waiting for the
> [use] syntax to appear since before you joined the project. It's been on
> "the list" for so long that many of us have given up... ; )
He - and I thought I just missed t
Jason Stubbs posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:06:05 +0900:
>> You are /sure/ the new code won't screw anything of that sort up, right?
>> Maybe that's the reason nobody seems to have been around to know about.
>> It just sounds like it /could/ be dangerous to me
Mike Doty wrote:
Please take a moment to welcome our newest developer, pva. Peter is
joining to help out with netmon.
Welcome Peter!
--
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On Friday 23 December 2005 20:17, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 16:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> > It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to
> > step down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead.
>
> May I with this email thank you for the marve
On Friday 23 December 2005 18:41, Peter wrote:
> We would like your help in evaluating, testing, and
> commenting on this approach. Please locate the latest
> nvidia ebuild at:
I thought that we (gentoo devs) were trying to split the modules from ebuilds,
so that people don't need to waste time wi
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 03:37 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:23, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:57:44 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > | Do those already work then? I'd like to
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:13:45 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 14:05 -0500, Peter wrote:
>> in any case. By unifying the ebuilds, we are merely duplicating what
>> nvidia provides in its install packages. We're not doing anything they
>> aren't.
>
> Who is "we" p
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 20:34 +0100, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Thursday 22 December 2005 08:13, Bret Towe wrote:
> > On 12/21/05, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > > I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over
> > > > to other sys
On Friday 23 December 2005 16:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to step
> down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead.
May I with this email thank you for the marvelous job you inspired the docs
team to during your leadership. A
Sigh...The point was to take 3, potentially 4, ebuilds and make 1.
Well, nvidia-xconfig should probably be part of hte nvidia-settings
ebuild, but I really don't think the drivers and kernel module should be
included. Why not create a meta-ebuild which pulls all of these ebuilds
in, so that
Hi Peter,
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 14:05 -0500, Peter wrote:
> in any case. By unifying the ebuilds, we are merely duplicating what
> nvidia provides in its install packages. We're not doing anything they
> aren't.
Who is "we" please? As you're a non-dev, it would be polite to
introduce yourself at
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:43:59 -0500, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Since nobody else has asked, I will. What is the point? What problem
> are you trying to solve with this ebuild? As far as I can tell, there
> is no point, other than trying to sound like you are doing something
> important.
Sig
Since nobody else has asked, I will. What is the point? What problem
are you trying to solve with this ebuild? As far as I can tell, there
is no point, other than trying to sound like you are doing something
important.
I can tell you that I would be disappointed if this replaces the current
On Thursday 22 December 2005 08:13, Bret Towe wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over
> > > to other systems besides CVS such as SVN, arch, etc. But I can't find
> > > the
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 04:07, Chandler Carruth wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:17:56 +0900 Kalin KOZHUHAROV
> >
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | As far as speed is concerned, it is comparable with CVS.
> >
> >Be more specific please. We're looking for benchmarks sh
Hi all
It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to step
down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead.
Over the years, the Gentoo Documentation Project has grown, evolved and
matured to what it is today: a well functioning documentation-machine
devoted to the ongo
On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:42, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:22:06 +0900
>
> Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > PackageA is installed, PackageB is installed, PackageB is
> > uninstalled -> PackageA is broken. Does this case exist?
>
> Found two on my syst
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:47:40 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Peter wrote:
>> We are in the process of developing and testing
>> a unified nVidia driver ebuild. When implemented,
>> it will replace the nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and
>> nvidia-settings ebuil
On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:43, Duncan wrote:
> Jason Stubbs posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
>
> below, on Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:22:06 +0900:
> > A quick patch makes symlinks handled similarly to regular files and
> > solves the issue. I'll put it into testing unless anybody can come up
>
Duncan wrote:
It just sounds like it /could/ be dangerous to me. For some reason, I
don't like the idea of something that could hose a system that badly! =8^\
It won't hose your system badly, since you've got /usr/lib64 listed in
/etc/ld.so.conf. I agree it wouldn't be very nice though.
--
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Peter wrote:
> We are in the process of developing and testing
> a unified nVidia driver ebuild. When implemented,
> it will replace the nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and
> nvidia-settings ebuilds. It will also add the utility
> nvidia-xconfig.
issues:
- pe
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:09:47AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:52, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 02:22:06AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > Symlinks are handled within portage differently to regular files. Regular
> > > files get an mtime check
Jason Stubbs posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:22:06 +0900:
> A quick patch makes symlinks handled similarly to regular files and
> solves the issue. I'll put it into testing unless anybody can come up
> with a reason not to. The case that will be broken by the p
On Sunday 18 December 2005 05:15, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> You are encouraged to reply to this thread saying "I agree with ciaranm
> that repository IDs should not be allowed to contain spaces".
I agree with ciaranm that repository IDs should not be allowed to contain
spaces.
Paul
ps. Thanks fo
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:22:06 +0900
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PackageA is installed, PackageB is installed, PackageB is
> uninstalled -> PackageA is broken. Does this case exist?
Found two on my system:
* "/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults" is
installed by sever
On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:23, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:57:44 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > | > That was my original thought when I started playing with it. I
> > | > switched to po
On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:57:44 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | > That was my original thought when I started playing with it. I
> | > switched to postfix to make it more consistent with the way :slot
> | > and [use] re
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:57:44 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| > That was my original thought when I started playing with it. I
| > switched to postfix to make it more consistent with the way :slot
| > and [use] restrictions work. *shrug* I guess it's down to whether
| > you conside
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:57, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Friday 16 December 2005 18:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:00:02 +0100 Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > | Just one remark: What about making the syntax a bit more familiar to
> > | C++ users:
>
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:52, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 02:22:06AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > Symlinks are handled within portage differently to regular files. Regular
> > files get an mtime check and are removed if it matches. Symlinks don't
> > get an mtime check (
I'm not at all pleased with the current state of the ebooks. I guess
I missed the discussion about it on this list before. I looked at the
archives and I didn't see any response to vapier's question about *why*
ebookmerge was happening.
I don't want to be forced to use the ebookmerge script. F
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 09:36 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
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> Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> | On Thursday 15 December 2005 16:50, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> |>gentoo-performance Discussions about improving the performance of
> Gentoo
> |>
> |>Alt
On Friday 16 December 2005 18:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:00:02 +0100 Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | Just one remark: What about making the syntax a bit more familiar to
> | C++ users:
> |
> | ~ DEPENDS="gentoo-foo::foo-bar/baz-2.1"
>
> That was my origina
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 02:22:06AM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> Symlinks are handled within portage differently to regular files. Regular
> files get an mtime check and are removed if it matches. Symlinks don't get an
> mtime check (even thought the mtime is stored) and are only removed if the
>
To Gentoo nVidia users:
We are in the process of developing and testing
a unified nVidia driver ebuild. When implemented,
it will replace the nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and
nvidia-settings ebuilds. It will also add the utility
nvidia-xconfig.
We would like your help in evaluating, testing, and
c
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Paul de Vrieze wrote:
| On Thursday 15 December 2005 16:50, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
|>gentoo-performance Discussions about improving the performance of
Gentoo
|>
|>Although it was a bit quiet last time I was subscribed to it.
|
|
| I still am.
On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:38, John Myers wrote:
> On Thursday 15 December 2005 04:48, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance
> > of a Gentoo system.
> > Overoptimization (the well known "-O9 -fomgomg" CFLAGS etc.) tends
On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:11, Zac Medico wrote:
> Harald van Dijk wrote:
> > Don't know if it's been reported as a portage bug, but this would show
> > it:
> >
> > KEYWORDS="~x86"
> > src_install() {
> > dodir /test
> > dosym /usr/bin /test
> > }
> >
> > When unmerging, portage won't r
On Thursday 15 December 2005 16:50, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
> | On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 07:43 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> |>This really belongs on user, or perhaps on the appropriate purposed list,
> |>desktop or hardened or whatever, not on devel. That said, some
> |>comments... (
On Friday 23 December 2005 22:13, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:00:20PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > > On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Sc
Harald van Dijk wrote:
Don't know if it's been reported as a portage bug, but this would show
it:
KEYWORDS="~x86"
src_install() {
dodir /test
dosym /usr/bin /test
}
When unmerging, portage won't remove /test/bin because its target still exists.
That is fixed in portage-2.0.53
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 03:52:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In other words, it breaks portability. And let this be the one thing people
> expect from using GNU's ubiquitous autotools. Our comments follow:
this has been fixed already, you should update to libtool-1.5.20-r1
> c) follow adv
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 01:09:08PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote:
> Basically it does ldd on all
> the elf files in a package and then checks to which packages those
> libraries belong.
ldd is garbage for this purpose
use `readelf -d ELF | grep NEEDED` or just `scanelf -n ELF`
-mike
--
gentoo-dev@g
Hello,
We recently switched development platform from RedHat/Fedora to Gentoo.
Great you'd say. However, now our users (most notably on Solaris) complain
that our small utility's "./configure" bails out with the dreadful message:
*** [Gentoo] sanity check failed! ***
*** libtool.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 10:58:03PM +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 23:48 +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote:
> > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:xml - Check/Support flag for XML library
> > (version 1)
> >
> > I think the xml use flag should be more generic. There are after all
> > oth
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 02:03:39PM +, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote:
> That is why I don't quite understand why Mozilla based browsers use the
> mozsvg
> use flag when there is already a global svg use flag available and if you
> enable svg you can pretty much guarantee you will want it in mozilla
On Thursday 22 December 2005 21:52, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Thursday 22 December 2005 20:14, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> > Query: Which would be more appropriate in this case? "jasper" for the
> > library it pulls in as a depend, or "jpeg2k" for the functionality that
> > library provides? There's nothi
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:00:20PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> > > > Well, you should know that those are beca
On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> > > Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some
> > > portage peculiarity, read the corres
On Friday 23 December 2005 21:39, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> > > Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some
> > > portage peculiarity, read the corres
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:09:08 +0200
Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Basically it does ldd on all the elf files in a package and then
> checks to which packages those libraries belong.
I don't think "ldd" alone is the way to go, because it doesn't make
distinction beetween direct and ind
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:31:06PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> > Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some
> > portage peculiarity, read the corresponding bugs for example for cups
> > to find out more.
>
> Can
On Friday 23 December 2005 20:19, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some
> portage peculiarity, read the corresponding bugs for example for cups
> to find out more.
Can you point me to a bug? There's no mention in the ChangeLog that I can see
Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some
portage peculiarity, read the corresponding bugs for example for cups
to find out more.
Regards,
Stefan
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http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/scripts/checkdeps.rb
Some people will probably find this useful. Basically it does ldd on all
the elf files in a package and then checks to which packages those
libraries belong. I think portage people are working on integrating
something like this to portage in th
Stuart Herbert wrote:
>
> I can see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it's worth the
> potential disruption that this will cause our users.
>
> Unless I'm missing something, won't every user who has any form of
> USE=xml, USE=-xml, USE=xml2, or USE=-xml2 in make.conf and packages.use
>
Here's what we have:
app-office/qhacc/qhacc-3.4.ebuild: [ -n "${PF}" ] && rm -rf
/usr/share/doc/${PF}
net-fs/samba/samba-3.0.14a-r2.ebuild: rm -rf
${ROOT}/usr/share/doc/${PF}
net-fs/samba/samba-3.0.14a-r3.ebuild: rm -rf
${ROOT}/usr/share/doc/${PF}
net-fs/samba/samba-3.0
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