Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 22:51 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > | Why? Because they just install the hard RDEPEND, so if you have a system > | installed from binaries, you get working linking, but nothing will > | compile

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: | Why? Because they just install the hard RDEPEND, so if you have a system | installed from binaries, you get working linking, but nothing will | compile for the system. Right, until you actually install the build-time deps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
> - - Binary packages don't require the header packages. Theese are the main cause of pain in situations like this. Why? Because they just install the hard RDEPEND, so if you have a system installed from binaries, you get working linking, but nothing will compile for the system. Theese level

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Joshua Baergen
Donnie Berkholz wrote: - - Packages requiring the headers have to DEPEND on them directly, because DEPENDs don't cascade. (Although this brings to mind the concept of some sort of cascadable DEPEND.) I remember some sort of BDEPEND idea being proposed awhile back, but that was for something d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: | If your package, libFoo, installs .h files that directly require header | files from libBar, then you have a Runtime dependency on libBar, not | only a compile time dependency | | | Why? Because libFoo should be usable

[gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
okay, this came up in a discussion today, and I figured it was time to mention something about it here: If your package, libFoo, installs .h files that directly require header files from libBar, then you have a Runtime dependency on libBar, not only a compile time dependency Why? Because lib

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-7 emerge blocks

2005-10-24 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Dan Armak wrote: On Monday 24 October 2005 19:24, Ferris McCormick wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 18:48 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: Don't post such questions here. Go to the gentoo-user mailing list, the forums, or irc. This list is

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-7 emerge blocks

2005-10-24 Thread Dan Armak
On Monday 24 October 2005 19:24, Ferris McCormick wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 18:48 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > > Don't post such questions here. Go to the gentoo-user mailing list, the > > forums, or irc. This list is for discussion of Gentoo development. > > Actually, this is a discussion of X-m

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Jeff Walter
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: I thought it was of big purple cows Well yes, and no... I'm working on the Cobalt RaQ's, little 1U rack mounts that have purple front plates. Jeff -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: xorg-x11-7 emerge blocks

2005-10-24 Thread R Hill
Massimiliano Bellomo wrote: a lot of blocks by a phantom package xorg-x11-7 !! Any ideas ?? # echo "x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:41:26 -0400 "Stephen P. Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Unfortunately, we don't have any member of the mips team that really | does much with sound (where did that Indy go to anyway?) eradicator. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 11:03 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: What would be your recommendation on how to handle this for mips, then? Make the virtual alsa-driver? This wouldn't work, as none of our alsa drivers are actually provided by alsa-driver. OK. How does it

RE: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Lee
> > Strange that I'm still around then... > > oh, you're not.. You just haven't realised it yet. I've heard that > happens to a few zombies. *grin* > "RE: bad Halloween puns (WAS RE: New Developer: CHTEKK)" anyone? :D Thanks, Chris -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:12 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Monday 24 October 2005 15:03, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > > (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like > > those of lu_zero ;) > Strange that I'm still around then... oh, you're not.. You just have

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-7 emerge blocks

2005-10-24 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 18:48 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > Don't post such questions here. Go to the gentoo-user mailing list, the > forums, or irc. This list is for discussion of Gentoo development. Actually, this is a discussion of X-modular, and up to now, all X-modular posts have come here (it is

[gentoo-dev] wxMaxima was an existing ebuild

2005-10-24 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, Well, I just started to create wxMaxima ebuild, but checking if it was in bugs.gentoo.org as a new package waiting for developer, it's created... But I'll look what packages does gentoo need, and I'll create their ebuilds. Thanks, Rafael Fernández López. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing lis

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-7 emerge blocks

2005-10-24 Thread Dan Armak
Don't post such questions here. Go to the gentoo-user mailing list, the forums, or irc. This list is for discussion of Gentoo development. -- Dan Armak Gentoo Linux developer (KDE) Public GPG key: http://dev.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key Fingerprint: DD70 DBF9 E3D4 6CB9 2FDD 0069

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 104705] emerge doesn't print complete error message

2005-10-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
Apologies. This was meant to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] New ebuilds

2005-10-24 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, I'm not a developer considered in Gentoo project, but I have a little time that I can give Gentoo everyday. I submitted yesterday tkgate ebuild (new package in portage), and I am going to start wxmaxima ebuild. I know that developers are actually busy, and they have lots of things to do. Thos

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 11:03 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > What would be your recommendation on how to handle this for mips, then? > > Make the virtual alsa-driver? > > This wouldn't work, as none of our alsa drivers are actually provided by > alsa-driver. OK. How does it work now, then?

[gentoo-dev] Re: PORTAGE_NICENESS is not so nice...

2005-10-24 Thread Duncan
Dave Nebinger posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:47:16 -0400: > I eventually killed it and system load dropped back to normal. Commented out > the PORTAGE_NICENESS value and emerged boost again. > > This time the system pegged again, but the whole process was fi

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Stephen P. Becker
What would be your recommendation on how to handle this for mips, then? Make the virtual alsa-driver? This wouldn't work, as none of our alsa drivers are actually provided by alsa-driver. -Steve -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 09:56 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 09:18 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > > >>>If there are no objections before Friday, I'm going to change > >>>virtual/alsa in base to sys-kernel/gentoo-sources. > >>> > >>>Now, if th

[gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-7 emerge blocks

2005-10-24 Thread Massimiliano Bellomo
Hi, i've this problem with emerge -uD world: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] http://insue.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-sony Linux-Sony Documentation: http://insue.com/linux/phpwiki IRC: freenode.net, #linux-sony -- gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 24 October 2005 15:03, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: > (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like > those of lu_zero ;) Strange that I'm still around then... -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, A

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 09:18 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: If there are no objections before Friday, I'm going to change virtual/alsa in base to sys-kernel/gentoo-sources. Now, if there are any arch-specific sources (sparc? mips?) that don't provide ALSA, please let me

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Luca Longinotti
Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: >Welcome aboard, We don't bite.. Much. >(usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like >those of lu_zero ;) > >//Spider > > > Heh ;) Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome! :) -- Best regards, Luca Longinotti aka CHTEKK LongiTEKK Networks

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 09:18 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > If there are no objections before Friday, I'm going to change > > virtual/alsa in base to sys-kernel/gentoo-sources. > > > > Now, if there are any arch-specific sources (sparc? mips?) that don't > > provide ALSA, please let me know be

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Stephen P. Becker
If there are no objections before Friday, I'm going to change virtual/alsa in base to sys-kernel/gentoo-sources. Now, if there are any arch-specific sources (sparc? mips?) that don't provide ALSA, please let me know before then, so I will know to add the virtual to those architectures for media-s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:20 +0530, Shyam Mani wrote: > Jan Kundrát wrote: > > For more details about why we've chosen to recommend the in-kernel way > > please > > see bug 92622 [1]. > > > > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92622 > > Also https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98772

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
Welcome aboard, We don't bite.. Much. (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like those of lu_zero ;) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digi

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Doty wrote: I like fantasy books & stuff, as well as science-fiction and animes, I generally read a lot. Welcome! Have a lot of fun and beware of weredevs, they could byte you =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~l

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 23 October 2005 19:16, Jeff Walter wrote: >      From the land of little purple boxes, welcome. I thought it was of big purple cows Btw, welcome Luca.. now we really start having problems when using just the first names :P -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flam

Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] PORTAGE_NICENESS is not so nice...

2005-10-24 Thread Tomasz Mloduchowski
I *think* it should go to user mailing list, forums, or somewhere else where it's not [OT]. On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 06:47 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: > So I set PORTAGE_NICENESS to 19 in /etc/make.conf on my primary gentoo > desktop so I could do emerges in the background and still use my box... >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible virtual/alsa change

2005-10-24 Thread Shyam Mani
Jan Kundrát wrote: > For more details about why we've chosen to recommend the in-kernel way please > see bug 92622 [1]. > > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92622 Also https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98772 Regards, -- Shyam Mani | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> docs-team | http://gdp

[gentoo-dev] PORTAGE_NICENESS is not so nice...

2005-10-24 Thread Dave Nebinger
So I set PORTAGE_NICENESS to 19 in /etc/make.conf on my primary gentoo desktop so I could do emerges in the background and still use my box... Well tonight I emerged boost... The system maxed out and ran that way for an hour without looking like it was going to complete anytime soon. Which woul

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Re: ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-24 Thread Jakub Moc
21.10.2005, 13:51:17, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:37:16 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Also consider the case of media-libs/libsdl. It uses novideo, > | noaudio, and nojoystick, for the simple reason that for the vast > | majority of folks who'd have reason to me

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Jeff Walter
From the land of little purple boxes, welcome. -- Jeff Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo/Cobalt x86 http://dev.gentoo.org/~jeffw/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: modular X - 7.0 RC1

2005-10-24 Thread R Hill
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Thanks to the dedicated work of Joshua Baergen and me, you've got just what you asked for -- newer X than even money can buy. Pound on it, test it, break it, and file bugs. Let us know how it works. You probably already know of it, but when following your modular-X HOWTO

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for quicktime4linux

2005-10-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Also if Luca said 25 days at 15 october, I'd like to push for a quicker death to quicktime4linux. 1.x version is unmainatined and had its bug, 2.0 had quite a bit of screwups (was marked ~sparc, but required nasm!), it can be built only on Linux x86 and Linux AMD64 (and I don't trust the code e

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Simon Stelling
Yay! Another member of the Swiss conspiracy! Welcome to Gentoo, Luca -- Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Operational Co-Lead [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Ahlberg
Hi, This is an automatically created email message. http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable has just been updated with 13694 ebuilds. The page shows results from a number of tests that are run against the ebuilds. The tests are: * if a version has been masked for 30 days or more. * if an arch was in KE

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Welcome CHTEKK :) - -- Krzysiek 'Nelchael' Pawlik GPG:0xBC51 Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDW86Tgo/w9rxVVVERAhrFAJ4jdPekY6chR7HFQW4kyz/5C1excACdHjX+ Wdfa5AJ5a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Mike Doty schrieb: > Take a moment to welcome the newest developer, Luca Longinotti. Mae govannen, Luca! -- Sebastian Bergmann http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/ GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 5D69 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP di

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 104705] emerge doesn't print complete error message

2005-10-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 23 October 2005 15:45, Jason Stubbs wrote: > One question; is the waitpid(x,0) necessary in the case where SIGKILL > wasn't sent? Is waitpid(x,os.NOHANG) enough to clean up the zombie when > SIGTERM succeeds? If so, the waitpid(x,0) could be indented into the "if > not timeout:" block. I