[gentoo-dev] Gentoo/MIPS SGI LiveCD RC4 (a.k.a., Round 2)

2005-06-09 Thread Kumba
Alright ladies and germs^Wgentlemen, here we go, round #2 of the Mips LiveCD attempt. This time, it works a heck of a lot better than before. Most of theory behind this CD is made possible by Stanislaw Skowronek and his rather revolutionary new bootloader, ARCLoad. Coming soon to a portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand
On Thursday 09 June 2005 20.05, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > I still fail to see why everything done by Gentoo devs belongs on the > > Gentoo page. The only article that belongs on the Gentoo page is the one > > about the Enoch and how it became Gentoo. > > Because it's something relevant to Linux do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/06/2005-20:14:33(-0700): Duncan types .. snip .. > > > That said, there remains the practical issue of keeping links updated. I > see a couple possibilities. > > One, there's the idea others floated -- note on the page the problem of > keeping links updated as to why links aren

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Shyam Mani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/2005 08:44 AM, Duncan wrote: > To me, that's a valid link, one that Gentoo should be proud of. In > deleting that page, it's as if we are trying to wash away some part of our > past, "the bad old days", that we are somehow ashamed of. To me

[gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Duncan
Donnie Berkholz posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:05:45 -0700: > Olivier Crete wrote: >> I still fail to see why everything done by Gentoo devs belongs on the >> Gentoo page. The only article that belongs on the Gentoo page is the one >> about the Enoch and how i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread David Morgan
On 18:59 Thu 09 Jun , Alec Warner wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just > >removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the > >articles exist? > > > >Thanks, > >Donnie > > I have to agree here, something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Vermeulen wrote: Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-09 Thread Aron Griffis
Stuart Herbert wrote: [Thu Jun 09 2005, 06:32:04PM EDT] > > I'd like Gentoo to be a place where neat things are developed. > > Aren't we really a place where neat things are packaged up? Hopefully both! :-) Regarding the rest of your email, I don't disagree. I think that if you read my follo

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-09 Thread Stuart Herbert
> There have been some really interesting points brought up recently > about "where is Gentoo going?" It feels like this topic comes up every year :) > I have been wondering that myself. > Some people seem to think that Gentoo has the potential to be an > enterprise player. Maybe, maybe not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Crete wrote: > I still fail to see why everything done by Gentoo devs belongs on the > Gentoo page. The only article that belongs on the Gentoo page is the one > about the Enoch and how it became Gentoo. Because it's something relevant to Linu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Olivier Crete
On Thu, 2005-09-06 at 10:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > >>It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just > >>removing the link

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >>It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just >>removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the >>articles exist? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2: testers requested

2005-06-09 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 09:34 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ferris McCormick wrote: > >> So far as I know, sparc is fine with 6.8.99.8; > > OK, but this isn't the version I was asking about ... Did ya see the > subject? =P > Obviously not. So

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just > removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the > articles exist? Google? It's not our job to index Linux-related articles. Wkr, Sven

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:10:31PM +0200, foser wrote: > Maintainer's arch could be ebuild/slot specific. I'm not yet convinced > metadata is the right place. But are you convinced the keyword order is not the right place? In case you are, stop reading =] In case you are not, I would argue that m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on > third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide > links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change > (most

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2: testers requested

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: >> So far as I know, sparc is fine with 6.8.99.8; OK, but this isn't the version I was asking about ... Did ya see the subject? =P Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCqG+NXVa

[gentoo-dev] Re: ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread Duncan
Lars Weiler posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:37:22 +0200: > * foser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/09 15:19 +0200]: >> The point is that with his reordering implicit information was lost for >> no particular purpose. > > If you store implicit information in the key

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread Stephen P. Becker
foser wrote: > On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 22:58 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>Luca Barbato schrieb: >> >>>Stephen P. Becker wrote: >>> >>> alpha++ >>> >>> >>>alpha++ >>> >> >>once again, alpha++ > > > It's not a vote, it's a discussion. You g

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread Danny van Dyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi foser, >>>alpha++ >>once again, alpha++ > It's not a vote, it's a discussion. You guys--. ^^^Yeah, this proofs your ability to discuss very well... > As vapier indicates he's the whole reason this ever became a problem. He > was the one who starte

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread Lars Weiler
* foser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/09 15:19 +0200]: > The point is that with his reordering implicit information was lost for > no particular purpose. If you store implicit information in the keywords, then make them explicit. That involves, find another way to store the data (like in metadata),

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Lance Albertson
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:45 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on > third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide > links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change > (most notably the

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread foser
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 22:58 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Luca Barbato schrieb: > > Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > > >>alpha++ > > > > > > alpha++ > > > once again, alpha++ It's not a vote, it's a discussion. You guys--. As vapier indicates h

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread foser
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 00:47 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Aron Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/06 18:26 -0400]: > > alpha > > - > > - looks nicer (subjective) > > - easier to tell at a glance if a given keyword is in the list > > I'm for this. You can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread foser
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 18:43 -0400, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: > The games team has been alphabetizing keywords for some time. Just an > added datapoint. The fact that several developers have been doing things the 'alpha way' for no particular reason is no reason in itself to adopt this

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2: testers requested

2005-06-09 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > I'd like to remove the latest xorg revision from package.mask by the end > of the week, so I'd appreciate testing on any ebuild regressions or > relatively simple fixups from anyone who has a chance to try it out. > > If you'v

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword and ordering

2005-06-09 Thread foser
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 18:18 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Ciaran would have something to say about this, along the lines of some > packages sitting idle in ~arch state because the maintainer isn't > really paying attention. In that case, who can really blame an arch > team for moving ahead on their

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Jim Northrup wrote: > so if it makes a difference, I approached a dev on #gentoo-dev, and met > with condescending and belittling treatment when i asked for voice. I > will not be going into names or specifics. Please specify it. > > undeterred, I have taken the reccomendations, and rtfm'd an

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11-6.8.2-r2: testers requested

2005-06-09 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 19:50 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to remove the latest xorg revision from package.mask by the end > of the week, so I'd appreciate testing on any ebuild regressions or > relatively simple fixups from anyone who

[gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen
Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change (most notably the IBM ones). Because it is a pain to keep these links in shape, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-09 Thread Paul Waring
On 6/9/05, Stephen P. Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without hearing the other side of the story or seeing a transcript of > the conversation, it is hard to say whether whoever this was reacted > properly or not, however I would say they have a major stick up their > ass. Don't assume everybo