Re: [gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Johannes Weiner
> What it seems like you're doing here is saying more work for the > developers is fine, if it makes things easier for the users. (Developers > will just cvs up, which is likely faster than dealing with a web interface.) I dunno if it's really big work to have a look at one site to see if there ar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wireless driver / firmware ebuilds & wireless-tools

2005-05-23 Thread Stroller
On May 23, 2005, at 11:04 am, Roy Marples wrote: On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 09:25 +0100, Stroller wrote: What's the difference between wpa_supplicant & wireless-tools, then? Both do the same job - provide the tools to configure your wireless card. wpa_supplicant is a daemon that runs in the backg

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Conference - Call for ideas

2005-05-23 Thread Corey Shields
Greetings! We have secured a location and date for a Gentoo developer conference to correspond with the timing of LWE in San Francisco. The date will be Friday, August 12th. Global Netoptex (netoptex.com), one of Gentoo's infrastructure sponsors, has offered space in their facility to host t

[gentoo-dev] evms && lvm && lvm2 && device-mapper && raid ninjas wanted

2005-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
could people who have experience with the following topics: - evms - lvm - lvm2 - device-mapper - raid kindly review the open bugs in bugzilla about each topic ? we few baselayout maintainers dont really use these technologies so we need feedback/patches from people who actually do notes: we d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Weiner wrote: > One more tab in ${BROWSER}.. And it shouldn't make more work. It should > ease the work already there. > Having submitted an outdated port seems to be more comfortable to me > than checking your portrepo everyday for actuality.

[gentoo-dev] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc maintainer position

2005-05-23 Thread Andrew Muraco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm interested in taking over the dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc maintainer position, if no one is actively working on it, and i see that portage needs lots of work in this category, and i have worked with my own ebuilds of ICC to be able to say

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Johannes Weiner
> I really like having all the Gentoo things I need to do in one location. > Right now, that location is Bugzilla. Having to look in more places to > figure out what to do seems like it would just waste more time. One more tab in ${BROWSER}.. And it shouldn't make more work. It should ease the wor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Johannes Weiner
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 08:46:51PM +0100, Tom Martin wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 07:11:38PM +0200, Johannes Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > * More staff needed > > Despite the autodeletion of uptodate packages there has to be > > someone attending the list. Remove real spam

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Weiner wrote: > Outdated ebuild reporting system > > > Why > Reporting outdated ebuilds via bugzilla is in my opinion not the best > solution. > An outdated port isn't really a 'bug' and so there are man

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Tom Martin
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 07:11:38PM +0200, Johannes Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * More staff needed > Despite the autodeletion of uptodate packages there has to be > someone attending the list. Remove real spam or uptodate packages > where the targetversion is principally righ

Re: [gentoo-dev] question about non-dev submitting snapshot ebuild to bugzilla

2005-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 13:11 -0400, Mike Pagano wrote: > I am working on a new ebuild for a currently open bug in bugzilla. > > This ebuild happens to be a snapshot as upstream provides anonymous > web cvs but does not provide a nice tar. > > When a non-dev submits a snapshot ebuild to bugzilla w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: xorg's RDEPEND

2005-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 10:59 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 13:14 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > emerge pxes > > Last time I checked this package, it didn't support XOrg X11 (only > XFree86-4.3) and neither did it support linux-2.6 (only linux-2.4) - > both showstopp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wireless driver / firmware ebuilds & wireless-tools

2005-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 09:22 +0100, Stroller wrote: > Surely a user who emerges prism54-firmware will depend upon > wireless-tools? No. They could use wpa_supplicant. They could also be setting up their card as an access point or as a sniffer device. They could even be allowing it to roam t

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/eject ?

2005-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 May 2005 01:27 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > There's also the problem that using a || () dep will break while eject-bsd > is in overlay. Not An Issue -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] question about non-dev submitting snapshot ebuild to bugzilla

2005-05-23 Thread Marc Hildebrand
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2005 13:11:09 -0400 Mike Pagano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | When a non-dev submits a snapshot ebuild to bugzilla what is the > | proper method of providing access to the snapshot I created myself > | that it installs. > > Well... I refuse to take user-

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/eject ?

2005-05-23 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 23 May 2005 19:16, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > How many? If it's less than a half dozen packages, you don't get a > virtual. There are 8 packages directly depending on eject and one suggesting to install it (net-misc/krusader). There's also the problem that using a || () dep will break whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 May 2005 12:23 pm, Grant Goodyear wrote: > Of course, this issue is precisely what GLEP 27 was created to handle. > The portage devs have let us know that xml is a problem i thought i talked to them about your tweaks to use flat text files ... i'll have to check again i guess ... -mi

Re: [gentoo-dev] question about non-dev submitting snapshot ebuild to bugzilla

2005-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 23 May 2005 13:11:09 -0400 Mike Pagano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | When a non-dev submits a snapshot ebuild to bugzilla what is the | proper method of providing access to the snapshot I created myself | that it installs. Well... I refuse to take user-submitted tarballs for security reaso

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/eject ?

2005-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:12:04 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | The problem is that: kde-base/kdesktop depends on eject (and probably | is not the only one) How many? If it's less than a half dozen packages, you don't get a virtual. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Develo

[gentoo-dev] Pinboard of outdated ports

2005-05-23 Thread Johannes Weiner
Outdated ebuild reporting system Why Reporting outdated ebuilds via bugzilla is in my opinion not the best solution. An outdated port isn't really a 'bug' and so there are many obsolete reporting fields when posting a too old ebuild. The process should be

[gentoo-dev] question about non-dev submitting snapshot ebuild to bugzilla

2005-05-23 Thread Mike Pagano
I am working on a new ebuild for a currently open bug in bugzilla. This ebuild happens to be a snapshot as upstream provides anonymous web cvs but does not provide a nice tar. When a non-dev submits a snapshot ebuild to bugzilla what is the proper method of providing access to the snapshot I cre

Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-23 Thread Grant Goodyear
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [Sun May 22 2005, 03:49:39AM CDT] > So I was wondering for a solution for this problem: we have a > $USERLAND variable which can be used to select the way the chown must > be done, if chown root:root or chown root:wheel; I think both BSD and > Darwin userland prefer

[gentoo-dev] virtual/eject ?

2005-05-23 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
As I'm still working on Gentoo/FreeBSD project, and I'm trying to get KDE working there, I have a bit of a problem which I want to discuss with all the devs. The problem is that: kde-base/kdesktop depends on eject (and probably is not the only one), but eject is a non-portable, linux-dependant

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing svga from default USE flags

2005-05-23 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 23 May 2005 00:55, Daniel Drake wrote: > Any objections to dropping it from the default USE flags? Will be good to see it dropped :P -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64) http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ pgpyjhoHIJJda.pgp Description: P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing svga from default USE flags

2005-05-23 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 23:55 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > I don't really see why USE=svga is enabled by default. This brings svgalib > into "emerge system". svgalib is quite problematic and not used much anymore. Yeah, I've wondered the same thing in the past - I'd like to see it go as well. ./Bri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wireless driver / firmware ebuilds & wireless-tools

2005-05-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 09:25 +0100, Stroller wrote: > What's the difference between wpa_supplicant & wireless-tools, then? Both do the same job - provide the tools to configure your wireless card. wpa_supplicant is a daemon that runs in the background and when it associates with an AP in your list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tests for eclasses

2005-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:45:24 +0200 Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Cons: | - additional overhead on syncing portage tree Actually, with the new elib/eclass layout, this one's easy to avoid. Just make a tests/ subdirectory and exclude it from sync. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tests for eclasses

2005-05-23 Thread Francesco Riosa
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:19:27 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >| On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:54:33PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >| > Is there a standard way of handling testing for utility-type >| > eclasses? For versionator I currently have a >| > __versio

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-23 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 20 May 2005 21:30, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: >>But - aren't there many settings left over to the packages to decide, >>at least to choose the package-defaults ? > > > Any package that does this is broken. There are a couple of cases where > there's no other