Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:59:42PM -0700, Duncan wrote: > > Since our tree layout is based upon category, if you tried shifting the > > focus of it to packages_in anyway_, you would explicitly disallow same > > name packages, different category. Doesn't matter how you structure the > > tree, if yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Andreas Fredriksson
On 5/10/05, Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * icc depends on gcc's libstdc++, so changing your gcc version affects >icc and can even break it. Hi, icc version 8.1 can also use Intel's Dinkumware C++ library. It is included with the compiler and can be accessed by the -cxxlib_icc

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Duncan
Brian Harring posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 11 May 2005 00:09:20 -0500: > One thing that just clicked in the skull on why flat-tree has issues; > currently it's possible to have a package with the same name, yet a > differing category (app-vim/sudo vs app-admin/sudo). > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:27:46PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > As to whether the categories are good or not... think about it. If they > were good, would we still be seeing packages moving around the tree? > That's why I think that multiple categories are a necessity. Unless of > course, packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Tuan Van
Mike Frysinger wrote: > since i refuse to use UTF8 can someone verify that nano-1.3.7 is > broken/working in this respect ? > -mike WFM with vi_VN.UTF-8 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-22:30:56(-0500): Brian Harring types > Re: having a package claimed by multiple categories... eh. yeah, > that's a bit valid although I'd think it's either A) an indiciation > our categories need to be adjusted a bit, or B) (hopefully) a rare > case. :) No, no, please not A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:04:04PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 10/05/2005-11:28:21(+0200): Martin Schlemmer types > > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > > > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tests for eclasses

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:54:33PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Is there a standard way of handling testing for utility-type eclasses? > For versionator I currently have a __versionator__test_blah function > included in the eclass (source versionator.eclass works, it doesn't have > any portage-s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:06:15PM +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > Some of my thoughts on current problems (w/o having searched bugzilla yet!) > for dev-lang/icc-6.0-r1 l_cc_p_6.0.139.tar isn't fetchable and for dev-lang/icc-7.1.029 l_cc_pc_7.1.029.tar isn't fetchable and dev-lang/ifc-6.0 l_f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 May 2005 10:39:57 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Not sure why you want to wait longer. It only gets worse. The German | description in app-admin/metadata.xml needs an "iconv -f utf8 -t | latin1" to get it fixed (automatically doable), but the Spanish one | needs this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-01:44:19(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:36:06 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | A few category level metadata.xml have broken encoding. Looking at the > | cvs log, once the cause was sejo's commits with the dutch translations > | that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 May 2005 01:57:15 +0100 Elfyn McBratney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wednesday 11 May 2005 01:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: | > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 08:36 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: | > > Starts to smell of a cvs problem... | > | > actually i'd bet money on crappy editors eating the fil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 01:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 08:36 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > Starts to smell of a cvs problem... > > actually i'd bet money on crappy editors eating the files Like nano ? :P /me ducks Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 08:44 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:36:06 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | A few category level metadata.xml have broken encoding. Looking at the > | cvs log, once the cause was sejo's commits with the dutch translations > | that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:36:06 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | A few category level metadata.xml have broken encoding. Looking at the | cvs log, once the cause was sejo's commits with the dutch translations | that did it. Known issue. Long story as to why it happens, but we're bla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 08:36 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > Starts to smell of a cvs problem... actually i'd bet money on crappy editors eating the files -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tests for eclasses

2005-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 10 May 2005 21:54:33 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Is there a standard way of handling testing for utility-type eclasses? | For versionator I currently have a __versionator__test_blah function | included in the eclass (source versionator.eclass works, it doesn't | have

[gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
A few category level metadata.xml have broken encoding. Looking at the cvs log, once the cause was sejo's commits with the dutch translations that did it. http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/app-admin/metadata.xml?r1=1.4&r2=1.5 http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/app-accessibility/meta

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 04:11:48PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 20:06 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > > icc/ifc use flags: > > * These are scary. Using a different compiler should not be achieved > >by setting a useflag, neither local nor global one. > > You are correc

[gentoo-dev] Tests for eclasses

2005-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Is there a standard way of handling testing for utility-type eclasses? For versionator I currently have a __versionator__test_blah function included in the eclass (source versionator.eclass works, it doesn't have any portage-specific code), but this is going to get a bit messy when I add in another

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' PettenÃ
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 22:11, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > You are correct. However, it might be necessary to patch something that > won't compile with icc, but does compile with gcc. I think this is the > primary reason for the icc USE flag. Isn't tc-* functions there also for this? And anyway, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 20:06 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: > icc/ifc use flags: > * These are scary. Using a different compiler should not be achieved >by setting a useflag, neither local nor global one. You are correct. However, it might be necessary to patch something that won't compile with

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Danny van Dyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tom, > |>>Unless someone steps up, the intel compiler toolchain > |>>packages dev-lang/icc (intel cc) and dev-lang/ifc (intel fortran > |>>compiler) are prime candidates for removal from the tree; open bugs, > |>>primary maintainer is retired, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 10:25 -0700, Duncan wrote: > Well, the latter anyway shouldn't be a big issue. That's what Gentoo > ships patched kernels for, right? ... And as for not stable on various > archs, that's what open source is for, right? What's what open source is for? Spending your time fixi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Stephen P. Becker
> Well, the latter anyway shouldn't be a big issue. That's what Gentoo > ships patched kernels for, right? ... And as for not stable on various > archs, that's what open source is for, right? By not stable on the various arches, he means it doesn't even work on some (sparc for example). Also, y

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] dev-lang/icc and dev-lang/ifc candidates for removal

2005-05-10 Thread Tom Van Doorsselaere
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Danny van Dyk wrote: | Hi Brian, | Brian Harring schrieb: | |>>Unless someone steps up, the intel compiler toolchain |>>packages dev-lang/icc (intel cc) and dev-lang/ifc (intel fortran |>>compiler) are prime candidates for removal from the tree; open bu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Duncan
Stephen Bennett posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 May 2005 16:36:57 +0100: > On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 11:05 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: >> I'll be the first alt-arch person to scream, Reiser isn't stable on more >> than half the arch's we support, and forcing users to go to one >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 11:05 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > I'll be the first alt-arch person to scream, Reiser isn't stable on more > than half the arch's we support, and forcing users to go to one > filesystem just to get decent speed on portage tree searches is silly. Besides which, as of latested

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > Martin Schlemmer posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > excerpted below, on Tue, 10 May 2005 11:02:07 +0200: > > >>Problem with flat tree, is the search times might then suck even more, as >>last I heard, too many dirs/files in one directory

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Duncan
Martin Schlemmer posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 May 2005 11:02:07 +0200: > Problem with flat tree, is the search times might then suck even more, as > last I heard, too many dirs/files in one directory have a huge speed > penalty. Yeah, sure, for ext2/3, but all those sm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-11:28:21(+0200): Martin Schlemmer types > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > > Georgi Georgiev wrote: [Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > > tree where each package can go in multi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? > > That's something I'd love to see eventually..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? > > That's something I'd love to see eventually..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-11:15:45(+0200): Paul de Vrieze types > On Monday 09 May 2005 22:27, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 09 May 2005 04:12 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > > What about adding a "panic" mode to portage which, when confronted > > > with a missing profile, (and after confirmation) co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cutting down on non-cascaded profiles

2005-05-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 09 May 2005 22:27, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 09 May 2005 04:12 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > What about adding a "panic" mode to portage which, when confronted > > with a missing profile, (and after confirmation) continues to upgrade > > portage to the latest version it can find w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? > > That's something I'd love to see eventually..