Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 09:32:59AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Reply to List hasn't even worked properly for me since switching to the > new server or whatever. It duplicates to @gentoo.org and > @lists.gentoo.org. I'd guess this has something to do with people > sending to @gentoo.org when

[gentoo-dev] Re: reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Duncan
Paul de Vrieze posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:11:06 +0200: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 18:32, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Reply to List hasn't even worked properly for me since switching to the >> new server or whatever. It duplicates to @gentoo.org and >> @list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 14 April 2005 05:57 pm, Olivier Crête wrote: > You can do if/then/fi or > use blah && { emake foo || die; } > > {} will not spawn a sub-shell... just execute them in the same shell so > the die will work properly both syntaxes are ugly imho but the best thing would be to use if/then/fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 14 April 2005 05:58 pm, Caleb Tennis wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 04:54 pm, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > > use blah && ( emake foo || die ) > > > > Yep, because that doesn't work. > > Wow. I've been doing it for years. What's broken about it, the nested die > ro the "use blah &&"

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 14/04/2005-14:10:34(-0600): Jason Wever types > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > Reply-to-All is evil. You should be using Reply-to-List. I know that I > > sure don't need to get the same email both on and off-list. Off-list > > emails should be reserved only for when

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Stefan Schweizer wrote: we use useq because it does not output blah. "use" doesn't output anything anymore either and anything that depends on it doing so is already broken. Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Stuart Longland
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 00:15 +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: At the moment, I'm used to just clicking the Reply button to send to the list... however, on most lists that I participate in, Reply-To is left alone, so I'm normally in the habit of clicking Reply-To-All. Seeing as

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www/apache testing request (marking stable anytime soon)

2005-04-14 Thread Stuart Herbert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Protect the whole directory. Do that, and you break all our webapp ebuilds. Best regards, Stu - -- Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer http://dev.gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www/apache testing request (marking stable anytime soon)

2005-04-14 Thread Stuart Herbert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Wever wrote: | That could be handled via some CONFIG_PROTECT foo (unless someone has a | more suitable method in mind) If I catch anyone trying to add CONFIG_PROTECT to /var/www/localhost/htdocs, I'll happily break their fingers. Portage's concep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:05:25 -0500 Vibhav Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Caleb Tennis wrote: | >So it seems repoman doesn't like nested die calls like this: | > | >use blah && ( emake foo || die ) | > | i believe this is a question in the developer end quiz too:-) It is now. It wasn't back in t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Vibhav Garg
Caleb Tennis wrote: >So it seems repoman doesn't like nested die calls like this: > >use blah && ( emake foo || die ) > > > i believe this is a question in the developer end quiz too:-) >But, without the parenthesis > >use blah && emake foo || die > >always dies (the emake functions just fine,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:42:22 -0500 Caleb Tennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | use blah && ( emake foo || die ) Here's what The Doc will have to say about this: ``die`` and Subshells - .. Warning:: ``die`` **will not work in a subshell**. The following code will not work as ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Caleb Tennis
On Thursday 14 April 2005 04:54 pm, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > use blah && ( emake foo || die ) > > Yep, because that doesn't work. Wow. I've been doing it for years. What's broken about it, the nested die ro the "use blah &&" part? Caleb -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Olivier Crête
On Thu, 2005-14-04 at 16:42 -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote: > So it seems repoman doesn't like nested die calls like this: > > use blah && ( emake foo || die ) > > > But, without the parenthesis > > use blah && emake foo || die > > always dies (the emake functions just fine, but it returns an error

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Stefan Schweizer
if useq blah; then emake foo || die "emake foo failed" fi we use useq because it does not output blah. regards, Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 16:42 -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote: > So it seems repoman doesn't like nested die calls like this: > > use blah && ( emake foo || die ) > Yep, because that doesn't work. > What's the trick? Wrap the emake in a if/then call? Yes. > Ignore repoman at the > risk of potential

[gentoo-dev] Nested die error

2005-04-14 Thread Caleb Tennis
So it seems repoman doesn't like nested die calls like this: use blah && ( emake foo || die ) But, without the parenthesis use blah && emake foo || die always dies (the emake functions just fine, but it returns an error once emake is completed). What's the trick? Wrap the emake in a if/then

[gentoo-dev] Meeting Notes - Release Engineering 4/14/05

2005-04-14 Thread Jeffrey Forman
Attached is the notes of Release Engineering meeting. Seemed pretty productive on our part. Devs: If you have not signed up for the devwiki yet, /topic #gentoo-releng and ping me. I think the wiki is going to be a huge headache saver for the next release. Sorry non-dev's, somethings must be kept

[gentoo-dev] Meeting Notes - Release Engineering 4/14/05

2005-04-14 Thread Jeffrey Forman
Attached is the notes of Release Engineering meeting. Seemed pretty productive on our part. Devs: If you have not signed up for the devwiki yet, /topic #gentoo-releng and ping me. I think the wiki is going to be a huge headache saver for the next release. Sorry non-dev's, somethings must be kept

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Jason Wever
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Reply-to-All is evil. You should be using Reply-to-List. I know that I sure don't need to get the same email both on and off-list. Off-list emails should be reserved only for when you explicitly do not wan

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Robert Paskowitz (r2d2)

2005-04-14 Thread Tom Martin
Hi, Another new developer has joined us to help out with hardened release engineering (releng). His name is Robert Paskowitz and he is currently a second year computer engineering student. He has already made some contributions to genkernel and catalyst, and will now be helping out with the harde

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 20:11 +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 18:32, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Reply to List hasn't even worked properly for me since switching to the > > new server or whatever. It duplicates to @gentoo.org and > > @lists.gentoo.org. I'd guess this has somet

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 16:42 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Try that on any of the technical lists (any of the kernel or debian > lists, for example) and you'll get screamed at -- there you're expected > to send to the poster and Cc: the list. But then, those lists don't > require subscriptions to

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 14 April 2005 18:32, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Reply to List hasn't even worked properly for me since switching to the > new server or whatever. It duplicates to @gentoo.org and > @lists.gentoo.org. I'd guess this has something to do with people > sending to @gentoo.org when the list thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Drake Wyrm
At 2005-04-14T09:32:59-0700, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reply to List hasn't even worked properly for me since switching to > the new server or whatever. It duplicates to @gentoo.org and > @lists.gentoo.org. I'd guess this has something to do with people > sending to @gentoo.org w

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 00:15 +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > >>At the moment, I'm used to just clicking the Reply button to send to the >>list... however, on most lists that I participate in, Reply-To is left >>alone, so I'm n

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:23:19 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Reply-to-All is evil. You should be using Reply-to-List. I know that | I sure don't need to get the same email both on and off-list. | Off-list emails should be reserved only for when you explicitly do not | want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 00:15 +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > At the moment, I'm used to just clicking the Reply button to send to the > list... however, on most lists that I participate in, Reply-To is left > alone, so I'm normally in the habit of clicking Reply-To-All. Seeing as > I normally have

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-14 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:48, Jason Stubbs wrote: > Anyway, any objections against moving the current USE_EXPAND out of > make.globals and into base's make.defaults? Those using <=2.0.50* won't get > any additions (how it is now anyway) and anybody using a stacked profile > (which requires >=2.

[gentoo-dev] REMINDER Release Engineering meeting

2005-04-14 Thread Jeffrey Forman
To all (yeah, cross-post, deal with it ;)), After much discussion this morning (EDT) in #-releng, we've figured out that the Release Engineering meeting is TODAY at 3pm EDT. Dev's and Non-devs are welcome to join in on the melee that is going to ensue. Usual discussion followed by an open-floor f

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Stuart Longland
Ming Zhao wrote: Heh, well put ;-) Couldn't have said it better myself. :-P *getting back ontopic* At the moment, I'm used to just clicking the Reply button to send to the list... however, on most lists that I participate in, Reply-To is left alone, so I'm normally in the habit of clicking Reply-T

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Ming Zhao
-- Ming Zhao. E-mail: ming at gentoo dot org key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x92914A48 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 36 Update

2005-04-14 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Since I failed to do so explicitly the first time around, I've updated the Specification section of GLEP 36[1] to explicitly propose 1 repository per project and the reasons for doing so. At the time of writing this www.g.o is still showing the old re

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:11:10 +0200 Andrea Barisani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Starting a poll on *forums* about a *ml*, no thanks :). Hope you were | being sarcastic. I'm open to suggestions other than the "remove the | header and let the flames come" option which unfortunately looks like | the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Graham Murray
Andrea Barisani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Starting a poll on *forums* about a *ml*, no thanks :). Hope you were being > sarcastic. I'm open to suggestions other than the "remove the header and let > the > flames come" option which unfortunately looks like the only one to me and > despite bein

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 11:11 +0200, Andrea Barisani wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 06:06:18PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > maillog: 14/04/2005-11:01:19(+0200): Andrea Barisani types > > > I'm prefectly happy with removing our reply-to header (and leaving > > > user_defined one if any) if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Spider
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 18:06 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 14/04/2005-11:01:19(+0200): Andrea Barisani types > > I'm prefectly happy with removing our reply-to header (and leaving > > user_defined one if any) if the userbase of this ml is happy to deal without > > it. > > Are you gonna s

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 14 April 2005 11:01, Andrea Barisani wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:54:35AM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > It appears that recently the mailing list server has enabled reply to > > munging. From previous discussions (about 2 years ago) it was decided > > not to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 06:06:18PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 14/04/2005-11:01:19(+0200): Andrea Barisani types > > I'm prefectly happy with removing our reply-to header (and leaving > > user_defined one if any) if the userbase of this ml is happy to deal without > > it. > > Are you

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 14/04/2005-11:01:19(+0200): Andrea Barisani types > I'm prefectly happy with removing our reply-to header (and leaving > user_defined one if any) if the userbase of this ml is happy to deal without > it. Are you gonna start a poll on the forums? -- () Georgi Georgiev () If it has sy

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Andrea Barisani
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:54:35AM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Hi all, > > It appears that recently the mailing list server has enabled reply to > munging. From previous discussions (about 2 years ago) it was decided not > to do this reply to munging. What I want to ask is do we want to >

[gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Hi all, It appears that recently the mailing list server has enabled reply to munging. From previous discussions (about 2 years ago) it was decided not to do this reply to munging. What I want to ask is do we want to reconsider this decision, or do we want the reply-to munging be disabled aga