Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Saturday 15 January 2005 20:59, Dan Armak wrote: > Hi all, > > As of yesterday, the 'split' KDE ebuilds for 3.4.0_beta1 are in portage. > Split ebuilds means instead of 15 ebuilds the size of kdebase, you get some > 350 small ebuilds for konqueror and so forth. There's more info at > http://dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Roman Gaufman ha scritto: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:19:36 +0100, Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Depclean cannot unmerge important packages unless: 1) emerge path-to-ebuild was used (no longer possible) 2) user deleted/broken world file (user deserves what he gets ;] ) 3) acl use flag re

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
My depclean shows: media-libs/musicbrainz selected: 2.1.1 protected: none omitted: none media-libs/tunepimp selected: 0.3.0 protected: none omitted: none Thats because I tried to emerge juk and found out I need to re-compile kdelibs with arts support :) Anyway, review

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:19:36 +0100, Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Depclean cannot unmerge important packages unless: > >1) emerge path-to-ebuild was used (no longer possible) > >2) user deleted/broken world file (user deserves what he gets ;] ) > >3) acl use flag removed after re-co

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Roman Gaufman ha scritto: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:13 +0100, Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It happen often between the users to have depclean unmerge *important* packages admited that user know what is essential for his system live if he/she forgot to "emerge --noreplace baselayout

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:04:13 +0100, Francesco Riosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It happen often between the users to have depclean unmerge *important* > packages > admited that user know what is essential for his system live > if he/she forgot to "emerge --noreplace baselayout-like-here" manually

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2005.0: x86 test-stages and minimal test-livecd ready

2005-01-15 Thread M. Edward Borasky
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 20:06 -0800, M. Edward Borasky wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 21:44 +0100, Benjamin Judas wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > The releng-team has the first test-set of stages and a minimal-installcd > > for x86 ready. > > > > The stages were built completely against 2.6-headers and

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Roman Gaufman ha scritto: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:49:57 +, Luke-Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 9:20 pm, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Heh...can you even imagine how horrible it would be to try and uninstall kde if 400 packages were scattered around the whole portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:52:30 -0800, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I dont expect stable to work together with unstable all the time. But > > isnt the whole point of unstable to test packages against stable so > > they can be unmasked? > > > > Anyway, the masked xine-lib works, but i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for desktop TLP goals?

2005-01-15 Thread M. Edward Borasky
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 13:25 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > I struggled with catalyst for a couple of weeks and gave up. I > > personally have no need for a tool to make stages or package CDs or > > "Gentoo Release Media". For that matter, I have no need for a graphical > > installer. > > You

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:47:09 -0500, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 21:59 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > As of yesterday, the 'split' KDE ebuilds for 3.4.0_beta1 are in portage. > > Split > > ebuilds means instead of 15 ebuilds the size of kdebase,

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:49:57 +, Luke-Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 9:20 pm, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > > Heh...can you even imagine how horrible it would be to try and uninstall > > kde if 400 packages were scattered around the whole portage tree? I > > don't even

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 21:38 +, Roman Gaufman wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:25:07 -0800, Donnie Berkholz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Try again, this time with the stable xine-lib version :) > > > > Why would I be trying to combine unstable X with stable xine-lib? You > > can't expect u

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 21:59 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > Hi all, > > As of yesterday, the 'split' KDE ebuilds for 3.4.0_beta1 are in portage. > Split > ebuilds means instead of 15 ebuilds the size of kdebase, you get some 350 > small ebuilds for konqueror and so forth. There's more info at > htt

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Luke-Jr
On Saturday 15 January 2005 9:20 pm, Stephen P. Becker wrote: > Heh...can you even imagine how horrible it would be to try and uninstall > kde if 400 packages were scattered around the whole portage tree? I > don't even want to think about that. With everything in one category, > you could just "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that need re-merging when another package is updated

2005-01-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 14:45 +, Paul Waring wrote: > Is it possible for the ebuilds like the one for Gaim to do this > automatically instead? For example, Gaim knows that gaim-encryption > should be re-merged, so why doesn't it scan portage, see if I've > already got it installed and if so re-me

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:25:07 -0800, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try again, this time with the stable xine-lib version :) > > Why would I be trying to combine unstable X with stable xine-lib? You > can't expect unstable to always work with stable. It's designed to work > properly

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:20:14 -0500, Stephen P. Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh...can you even imagine how horrible it would be to try and uninstall > kde if 400 packages were scattered around the whole portage tree? I > don't even want to think about that. With everything in one category,

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 21:15 +, Roman Gaufman wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:57 -0800, Donnie Berkholz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 20:34 +, Roman Gaufman wrote: > > > Seems to work, but re-compiling xine-lib has the following in ./configure: > > > checking fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Roman Gaufman wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:58:09 +0200, Dan Armak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 22:48, Roman Gaufman wrote: Ah, you're saying eventually all those those packages will go to the correct categories like kuickshow will go to media-gfx and juk will go to media-

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:12:57 -0800, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 20:34 +, Roman Gaufman wrote: > > Seems to work, but re-compiling xine-lib has the following in ./configure: > > checking for libXv.so... libXv.so not found in > > checking for libXv.a...

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 20:34 +, Roman Gaufman wrote: > Seems to work, but re-compiling xine-lib has the following in ./configure: > checking for libXv.so... libXv.so not found in > checking for libXv.a... libXv.a not found in > > So now I cant play movies :( > > Other than that, dont notic

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:58:09 +0200, Dan Armak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 22:48, Roman Gaufman wrote: > > Ah, you're saying eventually all those those packages will go to the > > correct categories like kuickshow will go to media-gfx and juk will go > > to media-sound,

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Armak
On Saturday 15 January 2005 22:48, Roman Gaufman wrote: > Ah, you're saying eventually all those those packages will go to the > correct categories like kuickshow will go to media-gfx and juk will go > to media-sound, etc? -- that would be really great. No, you misunderstood me. For now, we're _not

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Armak
On Saturday 15 January 2005 22:13, Roman Gaufman wrote: > Been using this since morning. Working absolutely beautifully. Far > better than expected. 5 thumbs up! > > Just 1 small problem so far: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78123 Was fixed before you posted ;-) > > Other than that, its c

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-x11 6.8.2 RC2 available

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
Seems to work, but re-compiling xine-lib has the following in ./configure: checking for libXv.so... libXv.so not found in checking for libXv.a... libXv.a not found in So now I cant play movies :( Other than that, dont notice any improvements, but glad to say things didnt get worse :) On Fri

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Armak
On Saturday 15 January 2005 22:21, you wrote: > So are the full ebuilds going to stay in portage? One reason I am so > concerned about this is that running through 350 configure scripts will > be more painful than you can even imagine on some of the machines we > support on the mips side of things

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Dan Armak wrote: Hi all, As of yesterday, the 'split' KDE ebuilds for 3.4.0_beta1 are in portage. Split ebuilds means instead of 15 ebuilds the size of kdebase, you get some 350 small ebuilds for konqueror and so forth. There's more info at http://dev.gentoo.org/~danarmak/kde-split-ebuilds.html

Re: [gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Roman Gaufman
Been using this since morning. Working absolutely beautifully. Far better than expected. 5 thumbs up! Just 1 small problem so far: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78123 Other than that, its confusing that all packages are in kde-base. Shouldnt you put the kdemultimedia specific packages un

[gentoo-dev] 3.4.0_beta1 split ebuilds in portage

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Armak
Hi all, As of yesterday, the 'split' KDE ebuilds for 3.4.0_beta1 are in portage. Split ebuilds means instead of 15 ebuilds the size of kdebase, you get some 350 small ebuilds for konqueror and so forth. There's more info at http://dev.gentoo.org/~danarmak/kde-split-ebuilds.html. They're p-mas

Re: [gentoo-dev] new USE flag 'symlink'

2005-01-15 Thread Alec
foser wrote: Would you rather have 3k of USE flags you can't deal with to begin with. Increasing USE flags to no end is at least as much choice inhibiting as restricting some choice. USE flags are a strong point of Gentoo, but it's actually getting weaker and weaker all the time. You are try

Re: [gentoo-dev] new USE flag 'symlink'

2005-01-15 Thread John Mylchreest
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 17:44 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > At the moment, USE flags are the only per-package mechanism available to > users > to indicate their choices. Maybe we need per-package FEATURES? That would > seem a more appropriate place for John's symlink support? > > > The line of

Re: [gentoo-dev] new USE flag 'symlink'

2005-01-15 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Saturday 15 January 2005 12:41, foser wrote: > You define it quite correct : 'optional functionality from the > _package_' . This is no option defined in the source. Why does "package" have to equal "source"? Why can't package equal "Gentoo package"? And why do you feel the need to make your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that need re-merging when another package is updated

2005-01-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:45:11 + Paul Waring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I upgraded Gaim today, I noticed that, as usual, it flashed a > message on the screen saying to rebuild any packages that depended on > it (such as gaim-encryption) otherwise they might not work properly. > The proble

[gentoo-dev] multisync

2005-01-15 Thread John Mylchreest
Little question to you all.. Who actually owns multisync? if no one owns up then does anyone object to me looking after it for the time being? I have fixed up evo2 support in it by grabbing the cvs build and stealing the evo2 plugin out of it. This will probably be better as a patch, but to save

[gentoo-dev] Packages that need re-merging when another package is updated

2005-01-15 Thread Paul Waring
When I upgraded Gaim today, I noticed that, as usual, it flashed a message on the screen saying to rebuild any packages that depended on it (such as gaim-encryption) otherwise they might not work properly. The problem is, I often set an emerge -uD world up and running and then leave it, because I d

Re: [gentoo-dev] new USE flag 'symlink'

2005-01-15 Thread foser
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 20:23 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 19:41, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > > Use flags are not the solution for all and everything > > They *are* the solution for including/removing optional functionality from > the > package. Love it or hate it, it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2005.0: x86 test-stages and minimal test-livecd ready

2005-01-15 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Saturday 15 January 2005 04:39, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 23:56 +0100, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > > Can we redistribute that? If not, then I can make a CD-based install > > > for it, which would install it from the virtual cdrom, but that doesn't > > > give me much in t

Re: [gentoo-dev] new USE flag 'symlink'

2005-01-15 Thread foser
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 19:17 +, John Mylchreest wrote: > I don't remember the last time this actually happened. > There have been disussions about this, but I admit, not on -core or > -dev. I haven't seen one discussed in a while either, so you are probably doing a better job already than those

Re: [gentoo-dev] slots

2005-01-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 15 January 2005 20:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:39:25 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | maillog: 14/01/2005-18:42:53(-0500): Mike Frysinger types > | > | > portage doesnt support USE based SLOTs > | > | Why does gcc h

Re: [gentoo-dev] slots

2005-01-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:39:25 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | maillog: 14/01/2005-18:42:53(-0500): Mike Frysinger types | > portage doesnt support USE based SLOTs | | Why does gcc have a multislot USE flag then? I already checked that it | doesn't work... or maybe it does... afte

Re: [gentoo-dev] unmerge

2005-01-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:36:56 + WhiteRabbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | can anyone help me with ? | The problem is that I unmerged dnsmasq but at every | emerge I get the warning that named will not be added | because dnsmasq already provides dns. You should read 'emerge --help config', and th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Useflag "mozilla" in obfuscated use

2005-01-15 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 15/01/2005-02:14:43(+0100): Karl Trygve Kalleberg types > Unfortunately, afaik, the only package that supplies gecko is > net-www/mozilla. When net-www/mozilla-firefox starts installing headers > (1.0 does not), it makes sense to have a 'gecko' USE flag. net-libs/gecko-sdk ? Or did you

Re: [gentoo-dev] slots

2005-01-15 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 14/01/2005-18:42:53(-0500): Mike Frysinger types > On Friday 14 January 2005 06:17 pm, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > Since you have added a USE-flag for changing the symlink and considering a > > USE-flag for copying the old .config to the new version, why not make the > > list complete an

[gentoo-dev] unmerge

2005-01-15 Thread WhiteRabbit
Hey you all, can anyone help me with ? The problem is that I unmerged dnsmasq but at every emerge I get the warning that named will not be added because dnsmasq already provides dns. Thanks for your help in advance Axel (Sorry for my bad english) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Jan Brinkmann (luckyduck)

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 02:40:49AM +0100, Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote: > ) As an infant, he has underwent martial arts training in the Swiss > Navy, So we meet again, Dr. Jan... You will not escape from me again like you did last time in Stockholm. I have learnt my lesson. No more RedBull for yo