Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Leo Simons wrote: > It's a big thing to vote on all at once. I still have > question marks with some points. What I'm looking > for is some signal that we are moving in a direction > where the TLPs will actually *want* to follow > incubation procedure (which would be a good si

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Greg Stein wrote: ... Just read the first part of the Board resolution which established the Incubator: WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Leo Simons wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Hence I ask to vote It's a big thing to vote on all at once. Ok, got the message. In fact there are serious enough points to decide to split the vote. I still have question marks with some points. What I'm looking for is some signal that we are moving

[VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Given that there are still points to be discussed on the thread '[VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)', I am dividing that vote by proposing the PPMC part that AFAIK has not yet recieved nays. Below is the new PPMC proposal, edited to make it as short as possible. My vote: +1

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I think you guys are talking around the "main issue" here, the one long e-mail I sent. Just address the "main issue" direct and once; make it public and the rest is easy. .V ps: I think that the legal entity accountable for incubator.apache.org, as per DNS registar is ASF. It may not be a rele

RE: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Vic Cekvenich wrote: > I think you guys are talking around the "main issue" here, the > one long e-mail I sent. Just address the "main issue" direct > and once; make it public and the rest is easy. Here are all of the e-mails you've ever posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://nagoya.apache.org/ey

Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Noel J. Bergman wrote: ... I have no idea what "one long e-mail" you mean, or what "main issue" you think you have raised. http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=2592 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [VOTE] PPMCs for Incubating Projects

2003-12-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nicola Ken, +1 on forming a PPMC for each project. I feel that we should let the PPMC concept evolve organically, and impose order only if we see it becoming disordered. The key issues are addressed just by forming the PPMC: direct oversight and community participation. A PMC policy to be deter

RE: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)

2003-12-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Vic Cekvenich wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > ... I have no idea what "one long e-mail" you mean, or what > > "main issue" you think you have raised. > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] .org&msgNo=2592 Ah. I had asked in case there was some germaine "main issue" that I had

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, I have a couple of questions concerning http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ExitingIncubator Some of them have already been asked (with no reply), some haven't. * No non ASL or ASL compatbile dependencies in the code base In the case of JaxMe, there are several unit tests, which de

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Forgot something: Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * Check of project name for trademark issues How do I do that? In particular, how do I record that I have checked and found no issues? *When* do I check? At the time the project wishes to exit incubation status? Or as soon as possible, in order to a

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-15 Thread Stephen McConnell
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, I have a couple of questions concerning http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ExitingIncubator Some of them have already been asked (with no reply), some haven't. * No non ASL or ASL compatbile dependencies in the code base In the case of JaxMe, there are sever

Re: Exiting Incubation - Status Check

2003-12-15 Thread Stephen McConnell
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Forgot something: Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * Check of project name for trademark issues How do I do that? In particular, how do I record that I have checked and found no issues? *When* do I check? At the time the project wishes to exit incubation status? Or as soo