Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Conor MacNeill
Hi all, It seems that I too was under the impression that the incubator project would be providing the documentation on the "Apache Way". AIUI, Incubator would not only serve to help new projects develop the Apache way of doing things, it would serve as the definitive reference for all other pr

Re: Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Serge Knystautas
Conor MacNeill wrote: Let me propose a few questions to see if there is consensus: 1. Should there be a common set of bylaws to govern all Apache projects. Individual projects could apply amendments, if necessary, to provide for their own requirements. For example, Incubator itself may have uni

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
CC'ing Sandeep and Krishna - the co-leads for JSR 155. Thanks, dims --- Scott Cantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A revised proposal with the references to WS-Sec removed by general consent of the >parties > involved. > > --- Scott > > --- > > Proposal for OpenSAML, A Web Services Subprojec

Re: Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
At 10:27 PM +1100 1/30/03, Conor MacNeill wrote: >Hi all, > >It seems that I too was under the impression that the incubator project would be >providing the documentation on the "Apache Way". AIUI, Incubator would not only serve >to help new projects develop the Apache way of doing things, it wou

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 10:18 PM, RL 'Bob' Morgan wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Blockers? --- "Are there IPR-related concerns with SAML (patents held by RSA but offered royalty free)?" Can you please elaborate more on this? You never know, but t

RE: Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:14 PM > At 10:27 PM +1100 1/30/03, Conor MacNeill wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> It seems that I too was under the impression that the incubator >> project would be providing the documentation on the "Apache Way". >> AI

Re: Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sander Striker wrote: From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:14 PM At 10:27 PM +1100 1/30/03, Conor MacNeill wrote: Hi all, It seems that I too was under the impression that the incubator project would be providing the documentation on the "Apache

Re: Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Serge Knystautas wrote: ... As the chair of the newly formed James PMC, we would very much welcome some standard bylaws to build on. I don't know where these should be maintained since I'm not aware of who in the ASF maintains existing bylaws. btw, in the meantime if you'd be willing to shar

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
robert burrell donkin wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 10:18 PM, RL 'Bob' Morgan wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Blockers? --- "Are there IPR-related concerns with SAML (patents held by RSA but offered royalty free)?" Can you please elaborate more o

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:08 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: we've see numerous cases recently about companies sitting on IPR and then suddenly demanding money as soon as the technology has been widely adopted. these murky waters are muddied even furt

Re: Bylaws duplication

2003-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
Conor MacNeill wrote: Let me propose a few questions to see if there is consensus: 1. Should there be a common set of bylaws to govern all Apache projects. Individual projects could apply amendments, if necessary, to provide for their own requirements. For example, Incubator itself may have uni

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Does any one have contacts at RSA? I sent an email to Robert (see http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200204/msg00110.html), but he is out-of-office till moday. Found him via the IPR section @ http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security/ Thanks, dims --- robert burrell donkin

RE: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread Scott Cantor
> > "A" license? What does this mean, that Apache has a license but all > > users of it need to ask for one too? %-| > > i think you'd need to ask an IPR lawyer this. The RSA position up to this point is that vendors of toolkits not only need to get a license, but also notify their customers t

[VOTE] AltRMI joining incubator project

2003-01-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
AltRMI [1] is a project made by some Avalon committers that is already used in Apache and non-Apache projects. It's a from-scratch replacement for RMI, which is the java API for remote method invocation. Avalon is reorganizing and spinning of projects that are out of scope, and AltRMI is one o

Re: [VOTE] AltRMI joining incubator project

2003-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: AltRMI [1] is a project made by some Avalon committers that is already used in Apache and non-Apache projects. It's a from-scratch replacement for RMI, which is the java API for remote method invocation. Avalon is reorganizing and spinning of projects that are out of