Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/5/2011 7:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I wasn't clear on the timing. They launched in Nov 2010 and have made > one release. It will be 18 months in June of 2012. the question I was > trying to explore was, 'how essential is it to have shown that they > can attract and integrate new people b

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
No secret here. It's OpenNLP. On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 5 July 2011 14:07, Benson Margulies wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira wrote: ...If a project, during an 18 month incub

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Ross Gardler
On 5 July 2011 14:07, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira wrote: >>> ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, >>> how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? >>> >

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Given the context you explained then I have to say I agree with both Bertrand and Upayavira. On the other hand, I don't see any harm not graduating from the Incubator and the project staying there for longer time till the criteria of having more new blood into the project is satisfied, and specific

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira wrote: >> ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, >> how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? >> >> Marketing of the project, getting it known, getting p

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Upayavira wrote: > ...If a project, during an 18 month incubation, cannot draw in new blood, > how can we believe that it will do so as a TLP? > > Marketing of the project, getting it known, getting people using it > enough so as to draw in new blood, is clearly a p

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Upayavira
I personally would say that bringing in new people is important. It is an important part of showing your project to be viable, that it is interesting enough to draw in new talent. Otherwise it is going to rely permanently on the existing committers, which is not long term viable. If a project, dur

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
I wasn't clear on the timing. They launched in Nov 2010 and have made one release. It will be 18 months in June of 2012. the question I was trying to explore was, 'how essential is it to have shown that they can attract and integrate new people before hatching?' Your answer seems to be 'not critica

Re: launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 7/5/2011 7:36 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > Anyhow, what do other think? Should mentors be pushing early and often > on this subject, or is it reasonable wait for, oh, 18 months and a few > releases before getting pushy? 18 months and 'a few releases', with no obstacle but attracting more co

launch trajectories

2011-07-05 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm relatively new at mentoring, and I'm writing to solicit advice from older hands on the early phases of community construction. I'm looking at a podling with 7 initial contributors, running since Nov 2010. No new contributors have been voted in, or even discussed. Or even seen, I think, on the