Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > If NiFi wants to try this, I'm still happy to write the 'simple' > proposal to the board, and wait upon the board's desires. If the board > members in this thread feel that writing the simple proposal is a > waste of time and energy, I won

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > +1 to everything Ross said below and I monitored that experiment > as well but was unaware of the 3 incidents, etc. > > As for pTLPs and shifting mentorship, etc., I trust Ross’s judgement > but think we need more data on this acro

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
++ -Original Message- From: "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 12:07 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: RE: Running an experiment with pTLP >I don't want to f

RE: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ssage- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:39 AM To: Incubator General Subject: Re: Running an experiment with pTLP On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...Given that I'll be mentoring Zeppelin, I'

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
++ -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: Running an experiment with pTLP >On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:25 PM,

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Benson Margulies
ience Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Benson Margulies > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM > To:

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
ttmann/ >> ++++++++++ >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++ >&g

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Benson Margulies
++ > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Me

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
e.org" Subject: Re: Running an experiment with pTLP >On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) > wrote: >> The structure would still be there - my hypothesis is that the >> mentors + the board will both uplift structure, and help to identify >> (more

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > The structure would still be there - my hypothesis is that the > mentors + the board will both uplift structure, and help to identify > (more quickly) situations like no report, lack of mentors, etc. I am skeptical that Apache pol

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Rich Bowen
On 12/30/2014 05:38 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: ...Given that I'll be mentoring Zeppelin, I'd love to use that as a guinea pig. Provided, that I'd have some level of collaboration from the board I don't have a clear idea of wh

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...Given that I'll be mentoring Zeppelin, I'd love to use that as a guinea > pig. > Provided, that I'd have some level of collaboration from the board I don't have a clear idea of what the suggested experiment means, it looks like t

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-30 Thread Greg Stein
Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++ > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Marvin Humphrey > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: Monday, December 29, 2014 at 8:36 PM > To: "general@incubator.apache.or

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-29 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
++ -Original Message- From: Marvin Humphrey Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Monday, December 29, 2014 at 8:36 PM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: Running an experiment with p

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> Might be seen as >> grossly unfair by the project that remain in the old regime There's no structure like no structure! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: gener

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-29 Thread Alex
As part of the Zeppelin community I would be interested in giving this experiment a try. As Benson mention in prev. thread - having 'Mentors in the Project' (whether directly reporting to the board or not) sounds as a great way to learn how to run Apache project to me. -- Kind regards, Alexand

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-29 Thread Joe Witt
Benson, Speaking from within the nifi ppmc I'd be happy to try this. Most of us in the nifi ppmc (excluding the mentors) are quite new to Apache so we're either perfect because we lack any of the biases or terrible because we're too ignorant to the good and bad. But I for one would be happy to h

Re: Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-29 Thread Benson Margulies
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Please note the change of subject. > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> On 12/19/2014 02:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: >>> >>> What it would do however if we simply did away with the notion of the >>> IPMC/In

Running an experiment with pTLP

2014-12-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Please note the change of subject. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > On 12/19/2014 02:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: >> >> What it would do however if we simply did away with the notion of the >> IPMC/Incubator/etc., is to return to the notion of pTLPs which were >> pro